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		<title>By: gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what that microsoft messed up here. the fact or the matter is this: microsoft bought danger. why?? money. the platform is potential profit. microsoft advertisement editors use macs to edit and cut their commercials (research it if you dont believe me). danger uses linux/bsd at the spine of their operating system. microsoft is more than big enough to use and sell linux without anyone ever noticing or even giving a damn. so what happened here?? why the crash?? 

 its one of 2 things. either microsoft wanted to sabotage the brand to steal the technology (without breaking the agreement they had with danger) 

 or danger employees cant stand working for the big bad new boss and all banded together to F^(k it up. 

i dont know what really happened here but the fact that microsoft didnt have working backups is simply shameful. microsoft seems to not care about the entire danger platform. they have treated it badly since the merge. we ended up with a buggy product that was rushed out, it was under a whole new system that wasnt tested enough. they tried to make up for it by adding free social network clients but it wasnt good enough. microsoft has not added anything software related to the danger platform at all. they let the servers get over flooded, they didnt back it up, they didnt offer anything to the little dpwnload catelog except the stupid map. and ecen the map sucks. its slow, it doesnt offer as many features as google maps and all and all i just dont like what microsoft has done with the danger platform.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what that microsoft messed up here. the fact or the matter is this: microsoft bought danger. why?? money. the platform is potential profit. microsoft advertisement editors use macs to edit and cut their commercials (research it if you dont believe me). danger uses linux/bsd at the spine of their operating system. microsoft is more than big enough to use and sell linux without anyone ever noticing or even giving a damn. so what happened here?? why the crash?? </p>
<p> its one of 2 things. either microsoft wanted to sabotage the brand to steal the technology (without breaking the agreement they had with danger) </p>
<p> or danger employees cant stand working for the big bad new boss and all banded together to F^(k it up. </p>
<p>i dont know what really happened here but the fact that microsoft didnt have working backups is simply shameful. microsoft seems to not care about the entire danger platform. they have treated it badly since the merge. we ended up with a buggy product that was rushed out, it was under a whole new system that wasnt tested enough. they tried to make up for it by adding free social network clients but it wasnt good enough. microsoft has not added anything software related to the danger platform at all. they let the servers get over flooded, they didnt back it up, they didnt offer anything to the little dpwnload catelog except the stupid map. and ecen the map sucks. its slow, it doesnt offer as many features as google maps and all and all i just dont like what microsoft has done with the danger platform.</p>
<p>what do you guys think??</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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LmfaoOooO get a lYfe Yue dweeb, We have a freedom of speech If yU don&#039;t like iit then leave the び.s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/danger-servers-sabotaged#comment-39751" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Genius on October 12, 2009 at 9:29 pm said:</em></a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re an idiot with all your moronic Microsoft bashing.  You automatically showed what an idiot you are by quoting apple insider.  </p>
<p>You bloggers are monkeys.  Stop hating on microsoft and do something with your life.  Maybe one day you can make a real salary with a real job.</p></blockquote>
<p>LmfaoOooO get a lYfe Yue dweeb, We have a freedom of speech If yU don&#8217;t like iit then leave the び.s.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to think After alll diis Shyt &amp;&amp; we stIll don&#039;t have dhe damn 3G network I
Sweah&#039; im gettinq an iphone
I&#039;ve had 287 contacts nOw I have 0 - called them assh0lez Flippinq out bUt all they seem 2 Manaqe to say was a Lousy &quot;Sorry&quot;.. I&#039;ve told&#039;em to Step they Game up, &amp; I wouldn&#039;t Be surprised if they lost thousands of customer for this &quot;So Called&quot; accident!!
 As for my cellphone bill this month: iM nOt fuckinq payinq iit, why shoUld I?? I cnt call nObodii Cuz I have nO coNtacts!! -_-

FoUr words For t-Mobile:
[ SteP-Ya&#039;-Game-up ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think After alll diis <acronym title="Shyt">****</acronym> &amp;&amp; we stIll don&#8217;t have dhe damn 3G network I<br />
Sweah&#8217; im gettinq an iphone<br />
I&#8217;ve had 287 contacts nOw I have 0 &#8211; called them <acronym title="assh0lez">********</acronym> Flippinq out bUt all they seem 2 Manaqe to say was a Lousy &#8220;Sorry&#8221;.. I&#8217;ve told&#8217;em to Step they Game up, &amp; I wouldn&#8217;t Be surprised if they lost thousands of customer for this &#8220;So Called&#8221; accident!!<br />
 As for my cellphone bill this month: iM nOt fuckinq payinq iit, why shoUld I?? I cnt call nObodii Cuz I have nO coNtacts!! -_-</p>
<p>FoUr words For t-Mobile:<br />
[ SteP-Ya'-Game-up ]</p>
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		<title>By: FeenForKicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeenForKicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reality is MS is to blame not Tmobile</description>
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		<title>By: FeenForKicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeenForKicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Jesus&#039;s nuts I made one comment u go off lolz

Sorry guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/danger-servers-sabotaged#comment-39849" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Ken Jackson on October 13, 2009 at 10:18 am said:</em></a></p>
<p>Are you kidding?  MS is to blame if it was a disgruntled employee?!  Kinda like Nicole Brown Simpson was to blame because she obviously ticked off OJ.  Or jews really have to ask how they got Hitler so riled up.  </p>
<p>Destroying thousands of customers&#8217; data because you&#8217;re mad at your company is YOUR fault.  No one elses.  </p>
<p>FeenForKicks, remind me to never hire you.  I&#8217;d hate that you decide that you needed a promotion, but since you didn&#8217;t get one, everyone in office must die.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus&#8217;s nuts I made one comment u go off lolz</p>
<p>Sorry guy</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding?  MS is to blame if it was a disgruntled employee?!  Kinda like Nicole Brown Simpson was to blame because she obviously ticked off OJ.  Or jews really have to ask how they got Hitler so riled up.  

Destroying thousands of customers&#039; data because you&#039;re mad at your company is YOUR fault.  No one elses.  

FeenForKicks, remind me to never hire you.  I&#039;d hate that you decide that you needed a promotion, but since you didn&#039;t get one, everyone in office must die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding?  MS is to blame if it was a disgruntled employee?!  Kinda like Nicole Brown Simpson was to blame because she obviously ticked off OJ.  Or jews really have to ask how they got Hitler so riled up.  </p>
<p>Destroying thousands of customers&#8217; data because you&#8217;re mad at your company is YOUR fault.  No one elses.  </p>
<p>FeenForKicks, remind me to never hire you.  I&#8217;d hate that you decide that you needed a promotion, but since you didn&#8217;t get one, everyone in office must die.</p>
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		<title>By: Lina Inverse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lina Inverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ve ever been responsible for backing up a database you know it&#039;s not a trivial thing.  E.g. just backing up the files without stopping the database will result in mush, although if you throw enough money at that mush you should be able to recover a lot if not most.  Perhaps T-Mobile released the Microsoft/Danger &quot;no recovery possible&quot; report to light a fire under Microsoft, seeing as how they are about to launch their Azure cloud platform to compete with Amazon/Rackspace/Google/etc.

The latest AppleInsider report says the &quot;data center had &#039;been running on autopilot for some time...&#039;&quot; and that it used the relatively complicated (due to its necessary goal of high availability) Oracle Real Application Cluster (RAC).  It&#039;s entirely believable that:

The RAC database was never blacked up correctly and this wasn&#039;t caught due to a failure to spend the $$$ to fully and regularly test the backups.

Backups were being tested but that stopped due to Microsoft&#039;s gutting of Danger&#039;s operations staff.

Another possibility is that the load on the SAN got so high (too many IOPs required) that testing the backup was no longer feasible, or even doing the backup was no longer possible without service interruption which would require Microsoft to pay T-Mobile $$$ under their SLA.

Someone with enterprise experience says that this is common: backups are stopped because they interfere with operating the service and the solution is to upgrade the SAN.  By the time the purchase of new hardware is spec-ed, approved and it&#039;s in place even a one shot backup is not practical, so the manager in charge thinks he&#039;ll solve all the problems with just the upgrade.

The specialists doing the upgrade get a signed by a VP &quot;OK to do it without the backup&quot;, fail (that&#039;s not uncommon and why they get it in writing) ... and you have today&#039;s situation, where having a sufficiently hot fire built underneath them Microsoft is clearly groveling over whatever bits survived the whole mess and succeeding in retrieving some fraction of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve ever been responsible for backing up a database you know it&#8217;s not a trivial thing.  E.g. just backing up the files without stopping the database will result in mush, although if you throw enough money at that mush you should be able to recover a lot if not most.  Perhaps T-Mobile released the Microsoft/Danger &#8220;no recovery possible&#8221; report to light a fire under Microsoft, seeing as how they are about to launch their Azure cloud platform to compete with Amazon/Rackspace/Google/etc.</p>
<p>The latest AppleInsider report says the &#8220;data center had &#8216;been running on autopilot for some time&#8230;&#8217;&#8221; and that it used the relatively complicated (due to its necessary goal of high availability) Oracle Real Application Cluster (RAC).  It&#8217;s entirely believable that:</p>
<p>The RAC database was never blacked up correctly and this wasn&#8217;t caught due to a failure to spend the $$$ to fully and regularly test the backups.</p>
<p>Backups were being tested but that stopped due to Microsoft&#8217;s gutting of Danger&#8217;s operations staff.</p>
<p>Another possibility is that the load on the SAN got so high (too many IOPs required) that testing the backup was no longer feasible, or even doing the backup was no longer possible without service interruption which would require Microsoft to pay T-Mobile $$$ under their SLA.</p>
<p>Someone with enterprise experience says that this is common: backups are stopped because they interfere with operating the service and the solution is to upgrade the SAN.  By the time the purchase of new hardware is spec-ed, approved and it&#8217;s in place even a one shot backup is not practical, so the manager in charge thinks he&#8217;ll solve all the problems with just the upgrade.</p>
<p>The specialists doing the upgrade get a signed by a VP &#8220;OK to do it without the backup&#8221;, fail (that&#8217;s not uncommon and why they get it in writing) &#8230; and you have today&#8217;s situation, where having a sufficiently hot fire built underneath them Microsoft is clearly groveling over whatever bits survived the whole mess and succeeding in retrieving some fraction of them.</p>
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		<title>By: FeenForKicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeenForKicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Comment ID #39712 Will Be Quoted Here]

(Hippie Approaches You)
&quot;My Friend But You Are Totally Right, Its All A Conspiracie Man&quot;

...
...

Lolz but I personally don&#039;t doubt it, think. Microsoft bought a platform they don&#039;t associate with using in their mobile devices, why!? (Hmmmmmmm)

Needless to say other devices have failed before, the blackberry outage, the iphone release parties and those lovely moments when it decides to crash and you have to restore it, android freeze ups and not receiving text or calls, but with something as big as has been this sidekick failure, its inevitable that all of us are speculating, specially with the fact that this only happened after microsoft buys the company, even if it was an ex danger employee/s who&#039;s to blame, that still points the finger to microsoft for doing something that totally pissed that person (or people) off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/danger-servers-sabotaged#comment-39712" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Sarah Pownall on October 12, 2009 at 6:38 pm said:</em></a></p>
<p>this is deff no surprise to me&#8230;  i figured that this screw up was brought on intentionally by somebody or sombodys!</p>
<p>I figured that Microsoft purposely had done this to wreck the rep of the sidekick thus causing them to have to kill the danger sidekick&#8230;. allowing more time and money for focus on project pink phones ! </p>
<p>tell me if i was wrong for thinking that ? does that make sense to any of you ?</p>
<p>well now after reading this blog.. it all makes sense to me now&#8230; watch EVERYBODY will be getting their data back! jeez thank god ~!</p>
<p>Such a waste of time ! MicroDanger Knows what they are doing ! <img src='http://www.hiptop3.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' />  at least i f*c*kng think that ! hopefully the sidekick future will once more become healthy ! <img src='http://www.hiptop3.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ahhaahaha i bet i sound like a dumbass !</p></blockquote>
<p>(Hippie Approaches You)<br />
&#8220;My Friend But You Are Totally Right, Its All A Conspiracie Man&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>Lolz but I personally don&#8217;t doubt it, think. Microsoft bought a platform they don&#8217;t associate with using in their mobile devices, why!? (Hmmmmmmm)</p>
<p>Needless to say other devices have failed before, the blackberry outage, the iphone release parties and those lovely moments when it decides to crash and you have to restore it, android freeze ups and not receiving text or calls, but with something as big as has been this sidekick failure, its inevitable that all of us are speculating, specially with the fact that this only happened after microsoft buys the company, even if it was an ex danger employee/s who&#8217;s to blame, that still points the finger to microsoft for doing something that totally pissed that person (or people) off</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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lolololololololololol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/danger-servers-sabotaged#comment-39753" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Heath on October 12, 2009 at 9:44 pm said:</em></a></p>
<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/danger-servers-sabotaged#comment-39751" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Genius on October 12, 2009 at 9:29 pm said:</em></a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re an idiot with all your moronic Microsoft bashing.  You automatically showed what an idiot you are by quoting apple insider.  </p>
<p>You bloggers are monkeys.  Stop hating on microsoft and do something with your life.  Maybe one day you can make a real salary with a real job.</p></blockquote>
<p>Roz Ho, is that you??</p></blockquote>
<p>lolololololololololol</p>
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		<title>By: chinzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>chinzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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i think it is Roz Ho.......but besides that how are we monkeys be cause we are talking about whats going on and alot of us have real jobs like myself and about 80% of everyone else on here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class='comment_quote'><p><a href="http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/danger-servers-sabotaged#comment-39751" title="Click here to view the original comment"><em>Genius on October 12, 2009 at 9:29 pm said:</em></a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re an idiot with all your moronic Microsoft bashing.  You automatically showed what an idiot you are by quoting apple insider.  </p>
<p>You bloggers are monkeys.  Stop hating on microsoft and do something with your life.  Maybe one day you can make a real salary with a real job.</p></blockquote>
<p>i think it is Roz Ho&#8230;&#8230;.but besides that how are we monkeys be cause we are talking about whats going on and alot of us have real jobs like myself and about 80% of everyone else on here</p>
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