Goodnight Hiptop: A Wake for Danger

The Danger servers shutdown today. It’s hard to put into words the impact that Danger and the Hiptop had on the entire wireless industry, as well as me personally. I know that it also played a personal role in a large number of people’s lives.

For a trip down memory lane you can check out the Sidekick timeline and Geekwire has a recap of the history of the Sidekick.

Some other blasts from the past for Sidekick die-hards:
- The old blue camera that plugged into the headphone port that only did 120×90 pixels?
- The excitement of the silver camera that let you take 320×240 pictures!
- The Hiptop Halloween Hunts
- Danger’s Official Timeline (circa 2007)
- Remember 10 Pin Bowling? Blockade? Cognet? HipPaint? the hacked Google Maps application?
- How about all the code names? Shuriken, Gekko, Zante, m1, m2, Aspen, Blade
- The rise and fall (thanks to Popular Science) of the Developer keys.
- hiptopinfo.com, hiptop.com, hiptop.bedope.com, skdr.net, skholla.com, The Danger Zone, hiptop411.com, hipalbum.com, and more…
- Discovering the hidden feature of custom themes. Thanks Jurai!
- T-Mobile’s Sidekick/Grammy tour and all the release parties
- The countless FCC leaks
- The Snoop Dogg commercial where he was asking for help with his laundry
- Who remembers Johnny Chase?

And last but not least.. where’s my cat remote?

If you’ve got a story or a memory to share about the Sidekick, please leave it in the comments. We’d love to hear how it touched other people too.

73 Responses to “Goodnight Hiptop: A Wake for Danger”

  1. SANTi_SiCKO Says:

    My Sidekick Was Literally My Sidekick. We’ve Been Together Since Middle School Up Until My Senior Year Of High School. I Will Miss You, Lexy. <3

  2. exiva Says:

    Eat ****, Johnny Chase.

  3. HiptopHappy Says:

    Voice of the dead! Posting this from my Sidekick 3 on June 1 at 0139 EDT. Goodbye. 8-(

  4. Disko Says:

    This post gave me goosebumps & I’d be lying if I didn’t say I’m a little choked up. I jumped ship (to android) almost 2 years ago now but my sidekicks will always be close to my heart. Rest In Peace, dear friend. Ok now a tear just went down my cheek. I’m such a girl…

  5. appletech Says:

    Only T-Mobile’s APN to the Danger backend was shutdown today (starting June 1 @ 3am).

    The Desktop Interface will still be on until June 30.

    Telstra users continue to operate normally as well until Telstra decides to ever shutdown their hiptop service.

  6. ncmacasl Says:

    Appletech forgot to mention that Powered By Danger Forum (and the entire site, blogs, etc.) http://www.poweredbydanger.com/forums/index.php will disappear after today!!

    a sad day in a long history.

    The Snoop Dog commericial is in “Part 2″ of the videos included in the GeekWire article.

    Already more rumors of other “Sidekick” devices (today pics wre leaked of a Sharp-made product with a 4-row keyboard with a Sidekick-ish form factor (but no corner buttons). http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/06/01/new-android-based-sharp-phone-leaked-could-be-the-next-t-mobile-sidekick/

  7. quikk312 Says:

    I’m still able to send tmail emails at my-tmobile.com

    -First I had the Sidekick color in high school late 2003.
    -Then the Sidekick 2 but only had it briefly because I didn’t upgrade to the SK2 until 2006 when the Sidekick 3 release was just a few months away.
    -Then I shortly had the SK3.
    -Then traded my SK3 and $100 for a D-Wade SK3.
    -In 2007, I got a free Helio Ocean from Helio with a contract and fell in love with it, so I switched my T-Mobile contract to a Prepaid $1 a data plan.
    -Now I’m rocking with the Sidekick and the Ocean =)
    -In early 2008, I finally got a hold of the Midnight Blue Sidekick LX and LOVED IT!!
    -In August of that year, I traded my Blue LX and cash for the SK LX Tony Hawk 2008 and thought that was the SICKEST PHONE EVER!!
    -A month later, I found a Sidekick ID at a Subway shop, but thought it sucked and I immediately sold it for a $100.
    -In early 2009, I upgraded to a free Helio Ocean 2 on my Helio/VirginMobile contract.
    -In October 2009, I noticed a glitch on my Sidekick prepaid data plan, where as my balance got down to $0.04, even when if I didn’t refill my account, I was still getting FREE DATA SERVICES; still being able to Email (even with media attachments), Instant Message, and browse the web as long as I refill my account with at least $10 every 90 days. Cool, huh? However, text messaging and mms messaging did not come with that glitch. LOL.
    -By the end of 2009, I stop paying my Helio bill due to excessive random charges appearing charges and Virgin Mobile try to convert me over to Sprint, because Helio OS was being shutdown, but I declined and they let me out of my contract with out a ETF penalty.
    -At this point I have no other phone except my Sidekicks on my prepaid data plan for a little while.
    -January 2010 I signed up with T-Mobile’s Even More Plus no-contract plan and bought a BlackBerry Curve 8900 didn’t add a data plan because the BB had Wi-Fi and I was still using the Sidekick for on the go data.
    -In February 2010, I finally bought a Sidekick LX 2009 w/ 3G, factory sealed brand new for $180 after seeing an ad’ on Craigslist by some guy who was in desperate need of immediate cash for rent.
    -I LOVED MY SK LX ’09… best phone EVER at that point!
    -Throughout most of 2010, I was rocking with my Blackberry 8900 as the primary line and my Sidekick Tony Hawk, D-Wade, & LX ’09… only paying $10 every 3 months on a free glitch’d out data plan lol.
    -Late October 2010, I guess T-Mobile finally fixed the glitch because I wasn’t able to get free data anymore =(
    -From then ’til present, I was still using my Sidekicks but only refill a $10 card once a month on the week I feel I will be using on the go data the most.
    -April 2011, the Sidekick 4G is release but I did NOT buy it, because I refuse to buy a Sidekick that doesn’t swivel, and that is made by SamSUCK!!

    As of now I still have my Sidekick 1 color, Sidekick 3 D-Wade, Sidekick LX Tony Hawk, and Sidekick LX 2009 (Carbon) and I will NEVER get rid of them. I will keep them for life, to remind me of the memories I had with SK/Danger OS.

    R.I.P. Sidekick and Danger OS… You will be missed! =(

  8. RIP Says:

    RIP

    paperback, jet, navi 1, navi 1.5, navi 2, navi 3, jet, turner, tina, m1, s1, m2….

  9. Setnakt Says:

    The best thing about all this is Powered by Danger is GONE. No more clubhouse for that dishonorable egomanic Appletec to powertrip from, inventing “rules” as he goes GOOD RIDDANCE. It’s like when Darth Sidious said “the Jedi are no more” to Yoda. Rocking toward the future on Android without our little green “friend”! I’ve waited long for this day, go back to Apple and the ii(diot)Phone Appletec, your precious Danger is at its end, as is your reign. Long live android! & the new Sidekick!

  10. dk Says:

    wowwww i never know it was a popular science article that led to the developer keys getting turned off. thanks a lot! that was the best part of the sidekick2 showing off all my custom ringtones thanks to seamonkey420 tutorials hahahh

  11. NOOBAMA2012 Says:

    Setnakt on June 1, 2011 at 9:24 pm said:

    The best thing about all this is Powered by Danger is GONE. No more clubhouse for that dishonorable egomanic Appletec to powertrip from, inventing “rules” as he goes GOOD RIDDANCE. It’s like when Darth Sidious said “the Jedi are no more” to Yoda. Rocking toward the future on Android without our little green “friend”! I’ve waited long for this day, go back to Apple and the ii(diot)Phone Appletec, your precious Danger is at its end, as is your reign. Long live android! & the new Sidekick!

    KILL YO SELF

  12. dk Says:

    damn…when i finally said goodbye and sprung for the G1, i always wanted to turn my sidekick data back on to get all my old texts :(

    guess that option is gone hahah

  13. johnfrye Says:

    I was there for the wake, but it did not have to be…

    Some of us were there to warn them that DangerOS had to evolve, but they wouldn’t listen…

    And now some of us are here because Danger is Dead.

    R.I.P. DangerOS and HipTop.

    And yes AppleTech, I TURNED OFF THE LIGHTS!

  14. Appletech Says:

    No need for that comment.

  15. Bilgemaster Bill Says:

    I’ll miss the old Sidekicks, having nearly a decade’s worth of “sense memory” invested in the breed, from the SK I Color to the SK 2009 LX. And I think that the way T-Mo handled the recent “forced migration” was piss poorly done. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me in the least to hear of yet another SK-related class action lawsuit against T-Mo gathering steam about a year from now.

    I have spent literally hours on the phone or mailing letters (Remember those? I hope so, because here in the second decade of the 21st century it is apparently not feasible for T-Mo’s so-called “Customer Service” to receive an email), trying to get together a comparable service plan to the one I’ve always had since 2003 and also buy one of the new “Sidekick 4g” forced-upgrade devices. T-Mo finally promised in writing that I could keep my $29.99 unlimited data + 20¢ per call plan, but it turned out they lied. A few days after the Danger servers shutdown I discovered when I tried to make one of my rare calls that I could keep that $29.99 unlimited data plan only if my new device’s phone service were completely disabled. They also had no new “Sidekick 4Gs” in stock, so I settled for a T-Mobile HTC G2, largely because of its decent qwerty keyboard (for which T-Mo overcharged me $50, by the way!).

    As it turns out, the HTC G2′s not a bad device at all. Superb in fact: hands down a slicker and more capable machine that the 2009 LX, though that also had its simple virtues, and I’d have been perfectly happy to stick with it quite a while longer. But the real surprise and something like a sense of relief came for me a couple of days ago, when just for a gag I swung by the local T-Mo joint to see what I’d missed out on in the new Samsung “Sidekick 4g”. Egads! What a halfass piece of cheap junk! I tried both of the working sample machines at the store and was thoroughly underwhelmed. The build and materials quality is nowhere near the solid standard of the Sony-made 2009 LX. That flashless 3 Meg camera is just an insulting cost-cutting gyp in 2011, and next to my new G2 that plasticky so-called “Sidekick” just seemed puny, dingy, cheap and thoroughly craptastic. Well, it truly IS just “kid’s stuff” now. The middle-schoolers can have that franchise all to themselves now, with my blessing. I’m just relieved I had the good luck to jump that fail boat when I did.

    I wonder if anyone will ever brew up a workable operating system to flash some of those old SK 3s, LXs and 2009 LXs out there that might allow them to run with Opera or Bolt browsers (like the SK 2009 LX’s reprogrammed/repurposed zombie clone the “Mobiflip” in Canada), or, dare I say, even pull in a wifi signal on their radios somehow? Then they might conceivably enjoy a second life as rather nice little prepaid handsets, rather like my kid’s Chinese Java-powered Dapeng T5000 (Google or YouTube it) running on T-Mo’s prepaid $100-a-year Gold Plan, with all of the device’s bells and whistles working just fine once he sniffs out a wifi signal. That would be nice, but I doubt it will ever happen. So, I suppose my trusty old 2009 LX is on its way to the same desk drawer “crypt” to lay with its forebears, my old SK 3 and SK Color (which I still do pull out from time to time just to admire its “Romulan Marital Aid” styling).

    RIP Sidekick… You’ve been a good, useful and entertaining friend through the many long bus rides, DMV waiting rooms and other otherwise blank vistas of life.

  16. appletech Says:

    johnfrye on June 9, 2011 at 11:21 am said:

    I was there for the wake, but it did not have to be…

    Some of us were there to warn them that DangerOS had to evolve, but they wouldn’t listen…

    And now some of us are here because Danger is Dead.

    R.I.P. DangerOS and HipTop.

    And yes AppleTech, I TURNED OFF THE LIGHTS!

    As before, I don’t care if you “turned off the lights”. You acted like you were the only person on the planet who came to that conclusion, but you’re not. Heck, I left the SK platform over 2 years ago.

    But meh.. It’s over… it’s gone… so farewell. *tip o the hat*

    (btw, the appletech that replied to you above is fake).

  17. AJ Says:

    Snowbored anyone?

  18. NOOBAMA2012 Says:

    Bilgemaster Bill on June 10, 2011 at 8:27 pm said:

    I’ll miss the old Sidekicks, having nearly a decade’s worth of “sense memory” invested in the breed, from the SK I Color to the SK 2009 LX. And I think that the way T-Mo handled the recent “forced migration” was piss poorly done. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me in the least to hear of yet another SK-related class action lawsuit against T-Mo gathering steam about a year from now.

    I have spent literally hours on the phone or mailing letters (Remember those? I hope so, because here in the second decade of the 21st century it is apparently not feasible for T-Mo’s so-called “Customer Service” to receive an email), trying to get together a comparable service plan to the one I’ve always had since 2003 and also buy one of the new “Sidekick 4g” forced-upgrade devices. T-Mo finally promised in writing that I could keep my $29.99 unlimited data + 20¢ per call plan, but it turned out they lied. A few days after the Danger servers shutdown I discovered when I tried to make one of my rare calls that I could keep that $29.99 unlimited data plan only if my new device’s phone service were completely disabled. They also had no new “Sidekick 4Gs” in stock, so I settled for a T-Mobile HTC G2, largely because of its decent qwerty keyboard (for which T-Mo overcharged me $50, by the way!).

    As it turns out, the HTC G2′s not a bad device at all. Superb in fact: hands down a slicker and more capable machine that the 2009 LX, though that also had its simple virtues, and I’d have been perfectly happy to stick with it quite a while longer. But the real surprise and something like a sense of relief came for me a couple of days ago, when just for a gag I swung by the local T-Mo joint to see what I’d missed out on in the new Samsung “Sidekick 4g”. Egads! What a halfass piece of cheap junk! I tried both of the working sample machines at the store and was thoroughly underwhelmed. The build and materials quality is nowhere near the solid standard of the Sony-made 2009 LX. That flashless 3 Meg camera is just an insulting cost-cutting gyp in 2011, and next to my new G2 that plasticky so-called “Sidekick” just seemed puny, dingy, cheap and thoroughly craptastic. Well, it truly IS just “kid’s stuff” now. The middle-schoolers can have that franchise all to themselves now, with my blessing. I’m just relieved I had the good luck to jump that fail boat when I did.

    I wonder if anyone will ever brew up a workable operating system to flash some of those old SK 3s, LXs and 2009 LXs out there that might allow them to run with Opera or Bolt browsers (like the SK 2009 LX’s reprogrammed/repurposed zombie clone the “Mobiflip” in Canada), or, dare I say, even pull in a wifi signal on their radios somehow? Then they might conceivably enjoy a second life as rather nice little prepaid handsets, rather like my kid’s Chinese Java-powered Dapeng T5000 (Google or YouTube it) running on T-Mo’s prepaid $100-a-year Gold Plan, with all of the device’s bells and whistles working just fine once he sniffs out a wifi signal. That would be nice, but I doubt it will ever happen. So, I suppose my trusty old 2009 LX is on its way to the same desk drawer “crypt” to lay with its forebears, my old SK 3 and SK Color (which I still do pull out from time to time just to admire its “Romulan Marital Aid” styling).

    RIP Sidekick… You’ve been a good, useful and entertaining friend through the many long bus rides, DMV waiting rooms and other otherwise blank vistas of life.

    Damnn, i fell you, the 4G Kick is pure garbage.

  19. johnfrye Says:

    appletech on June 11, 2011 at 2:55 pm said:

    johnfrye on June 9, 2011 at 11:21 am said:

    I was there for the wake, but it did not have to be…

    Some of us were there to warn them that DangerOS had to evolve, but they wouldn’t listen…

    And now some of us are here because Danger is Dead.

    R.I.P. DangerOS and HipTop.

    And yes AppleTech, I TURNED OFF THE LIGHTS!

    As before, I don’t care if you “turned off the lights”. You acted like you were the only person on the planet who came to that conclusion, but you’re not. Heck, I left the SK platform over 2 years ago.

    But meh.. It’s over… it’s gone… so farewell. *tip o the hat*

    (btw, the appletech that replied to you above is fake).

    Maybe… But still remembering the ‘flux capacitor’ joke still has me remembering the denial that once plagued the [now former] Danger.com.

    It’s a shame. The form factor was unlike other phones, and it is still nice even compared to today’s formfactors (if one likes the tactile feel). It’s just the stagnant development and seeming lack of evolution that I feel killed the HipTop.

    Still, it was a good run for the device for as long as it lasted…

  20. Max Sullivan Says:

    I noticed that when I go to network options and go to network selection and scan and select manually, and then pick AT&T that I get the G symbol, and my sidekick works as normal again. Is this working just for the time being, or did T-Mobile not catch this?

  21. Chris stokes Says:

    **** a appletech…

  22. NOOBAMA2012 Says:

    Max Sullivan on June 15, 2011 at 2:39 pm said:

    I noticed that when I go to network options and go to network selection and scan and select manually, and then pick AT&T that I get the G symbol, and my sidekick works as normal again. Is this working just for the time being, or did T-Mobile not catch this?

    It didn’t work on my kick

  23. dik on dek Says:

    big deek big deeekkkkkkkk

  24. BasedGod Says:

    Thank You BasedGod

  25. TheAceKannon Says:

    I’ll be getting this phone in a few weeks. I think for Samsung, they handled this transition to Android fairly well. Its gotten great reviews, nd honestly the swivel isnt there because of patent reasons. Android does this phone well, I just wish they could’ve had Andy Rubin make a very custom “spin dial” overlay on Android (Google Sidekick 3 Android for best example, or click here: http://gadgetmix.com/uploads/3/sidekick-android.jpg) But yea, I’m damn impressed. However, I do agree that the device does feel kinda plasticy.

    But my biggest and best sidekick moments in history wuz the glory of owning every one of the devices since the SK3. Granted, I ride with Cricket now due to their unlimited plans bein’ cheap, but I had a Sidekick $1 a day plan so it wuz easy to give up. I literally had a SK3, SK-iD, Sk LX 07, SK 08, nd LX 09 before i just sadly but strongly gave up. They have keyboards like none other, and multitasking wuz the best! I know no phone since the Sidekick has been good at multitasking but I’m willing to give the Sidekick 4G a try. Touchscreen, AND I’m already used to Android? (iPhoneOS is the ONLY touch-only phone i’ll use, ALL new HTC phones look the exact same so I’m glad Samsung made the new SK, although I wuz a bit surprised when they said Samsung instead of HTC). I love Sidekicks regardless, and the swivel screen always made my friends envy me EVERY YEAR!

    So if anybody can answer, what exactly were problems u guys had with the new one? Please, no bashing the phone.

  26. sidekick Says:

    its a good phone just a little lag here and there during multitasking its a good phone youll like buying it..and u have 14 day buyers remorse period anyway

  27. Alessandra Says:

    I miss it all :( but it’s okay there are other things out there. :)

  28. see more new sidekicks Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kOHWOisDfw&feature=channel_video_title

  29. Mulan Says:

    I officially moved on from the Sidekick on the 15th of July. I now sport a HTC EVO 3D.

    RIP.

    So sad.

  30. SK2andTREO600 Says:

    Wow, I heard the news and this was the only place I could think of to read about it. hiptop3.com I was a regular visitor of this site as well as hiptop.com/forums. I bought the Sidekick Color when it first came out, the SK2, SK3. They were incredible devices, the user interface was amazing. These days I am a iPhone user (Been one since iPhone day one) and I still think about the Danger OS. I miss the old hiptop forums. I was one of the “power users” appointed by “Appletech”. “Jgeorge” the developer that gave me beta versions of applications to use and test. “SidekickME”. I remember the secrect “HT-Meta” email group with hiptop.com admin, mods, power users, and some developers. Still have the emails. I’ll never forget those days, farewell….. [tear drops on keyboard]

  31. scottkor Says:

    im not sure about whats happening in the US.. im from australia.. if i buy a sidekick lx 2009 on ebay.. can i still use it with an australia service provider.??

  32. Mr. C0ck Says:

    And just like that…the sidekick is done
    IT was a good run while it lasted, from the amount of units Sharp/ Tmobile use to sell off contract to users. The overpriced 1,5 sequels that would follow each and every sidekick that came out.

    It was a good run indeed
    but the power force of Android and iOS, in addition to Blackberry and the idiots @ microsoft helped bury the sidekick..

    Farwell

  33. wow Says:

    I would like to thank Obama for making it to where I have a degree from Purdue University in Biochemistry/Bio-molecular Physics, but can’t even get a job making burgers at McDonald’s or cleaning hotels for just $5.15 an hour. Thanks for that, thank you for making me live with my parents at my age with all my credentials, thank you Obama.

  34. Setnakt Says:

    wow on August 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm said:

    I would like to thank Obama for making it to where I have a degree from Purdue University in Biochemistry/Bio-molecular Physics, but can’t even get a job making burgers at McDonald’s or cleaning hotels for just $5.15 an hour. Thanks for that, thank you for making me live with my parents at my age with all my credentials, thank you Obama.

    What’s that got to do with Sidekicks? Can you say OFF-TOPIC? Only a braindead Republican fascist would be so stupid as to come up with **** like that in a place like this. Maybe your just too thick to get a job. My daughter got a job as a virtual graphics designer with Nintendo before she even got her degree. Only a right-winger dittohead blames others for their own shortcomings. Grow up!

  35. LOL Says:

    LOL THE WOW GUY IS SO RITE THO N NO UR DAUGHTER DIDNT N IF SHE DID SHE IS A LUCKY PERSON N UR JUST NOT IN TUNE WITH TIMES MAYBE..ITS OBAMA N GOVT NOT JUST OTHERS..PLEASE GET OUT OF OBAMAS LAP LOL

  36. Claude Willers Says:

    does anyone has freezing problems wit the new sk

  37. MsMacy Says:

    ii absolutely love the new sidekick it just works so perfect only drawback i had was that it didnt swivel it sucks

  38. slamly Says:

    did anyone hear about a danger sidekick with swivel screen comin n december?

  39. slamly Says:

    and if so please give sum details bcuz im interested

  40. exiva Says:

    sidekick should have saw this coming

  41. NOOBAMA2012 Says:

    exiva on August 8, 2011 at 5:43 pm said:

    sidekick should have saw this coming

    STFU TROLL

  42. n0f1lter Says:

    I too am glad appletechs reign is over. Even from the hiptop.com days, he had his own agenda. Sorry to see the site go. But very glad they took his soapbox away. Even still….all he will say is he “left the SK “two years ago. He still ,because of his allegiance to danger, wont say what phone he’s using now. Glad you’re out of it now apple…..you wont be missed.

  43. U A FOOL Says:

    LOL on August 8, 2011 at 5:27 pm said:

    LOL THE WOW GUY IS SO RITE THO N NO UR DAUGHTER DIDNT N IF SHE DID SHE IS A LUCKY PERSON N UR JUST NOT IN TUNE WITH TIMES MAYBE..ITS OBAMA N GOVT NOT JUST OTHERS..PLEASE GET OUT OF OBAMAS LAP LOL

    See my name? That’s what U R. Now STFU traitor/terrorist, go back Russia or the Repubic of DUMBshitt

  44. NOOBAMA2012 Says:

    LOL on August 8, 2011 at 5:27 pm said:

    LOL THE WOW GUY IS SO RITE THO N NO UR DAUGHTER DIDNT N IF SHE DID SHE IS A LUCKY PERSON N UR JUST NOT IN TUNE WITH TIMES MAYBE..ITS OBAMA N GOVT NOT JUST OTHERS..PLEASE GET OUT OF OBAMAS LAP LOL

    Fuckk the times Bitchh go choke on a donkey ****

  45. Jesse Says:

    is anyone elses sidekick hinges sticking

  46. NOOBAMA2012 Says:

    Jesse on August 18, 2011 at 5:59 pm said:

    is anyone elses sidekick hinges sticking

    WHAT ???????????

  47. ncmacasl Says:

    @SK2andTREO600 — thanks for Sharing. I would have loved to be in the Meta group. (i tried but never did)

    @scottkor — no, as of Sept 1 Hiptop data is ending in Australia, as well.

    @Claude Willers — Yes the new SK4G does have freezing issues. try a factory Reset or root it (go to XDA’s forum for guidance)

    @slamly — got a source for that rumor? first I have heard of it!!

    @n0f1lter — LOL @ Appletech comments!!

  48. Setnakt Says:

    ncmacasl on September 3, 2011 at 3:26 pm said:

    @SK2andTREO600 — thanks for Sharing. I would have loved to be in the Meta group. (i tried but never did)

    @scottkor — no, as of Sept 1 Hiptop data is ending in Australia, as well.

    @Claude Willers — Yes the new SK4G does have freezing issues. try a factory Reset or root it (go to XDA’s forum for guidance)

    @slamly — got a source for that rumor? first I have heard of it!!

    @n0f1lter — LOL @ Appletech comments!!

    No offience, but telling someone to “try a factory resit(!)” for a fix for freezing issues without telling people what a factory resit entails is about as irresponsibable and illadvised as I can immagine! it’s one step shy of recommending smashing your phone with a hammer and about equivlant to recommending burning your house to the ground to get rid of a fly that gets in the front door! If you preform a factory resit you will lose ALL your apps, they will NOT come back as per the old sidekicks. If you don’t have a manual written-out record of what apps you had I hope you got a good memory, because Android Market does NOT show what you had except purchased apps, the rest you are on your own to keep records of. I recommend that btw even if your smart enought to know better than to ever do a factory resit except as an absloute last resort (I learned the hard way) in case you have to get a warrenty replacement of one of these crappy cheap “Sidekicks” I’m on my THIRD device btw! The 1st the power button failed, and as dumbshit Android devices default to *OFF* instead of on like Danger Sidekicks upon a batt pull, no power button means you are SCREWED! DUMB and POOR design! At least the power button issue is a “known issue”. My 2nd “sidekick”‘stopped receaving data for no reason. If this one fails I’m going for an iPhone, this is RIDICULIOUS! Back on the factory resit thing, make sure you have a written record of both all your apps AND who made them, because if the app is any good, odds are HIGH that craptastic Android Market will remove the app for no real reason (like True Caller and Tube Mate) and you will need to find the designer’s website and re-download it from there. Fun! Also, expect few web-browsers, games, or other apps to back-up/save any but the most basic data (if that) if you do a factory resit. This is NOT a real Sidekick people, it backs up next to NOTHING. Some idiot from Android Market told me to do a factory resit when the Market (and ONLY the Market) wouldn’t let me sign-in. I told him if Android is that unprofessional and halfassed I’l just throw my phone in the trash and get an iPhone, he sent me SANE troubleshooting measures (that worked btw) NOT involving a factory resit after that. A factory resit kills EVERYTHING and it does NOT come back EVER. If you have custom homepages, wallpapers, ringtones, they will be GONE and will NOT come back. Most of that can not be backed-up. Your MP3s, videos, pics, etc saved on your SD card will be there, but you have to reassign EVERYTHING from scratch manually, it does NOT restore. Plan to take a day or 2 off work/off everything to manually reprogram EVERYTHING your damn self, it is a NIGHTMARE. Better just get another phone at this rate. If your having freezing issues try a battery pull & restart (& DUH btw) it works 99.999999% of the time. If it doesn’t your better off to just get another (and different/BETTER) phone.

  49. ncmacasl Says:

    this is why I said “(go to XDA’s forum for guidance)” — and that is exactly why I have not done 1 yet, myself. (after being told to do a factory reset back in May).

  50. Jesus Says:

    I LOVE JESUS

  51. RIP America Says:

    R.I.P.

  52. i luv sidekick Says:

    does the paint *** off the new sidekicks easily like it came off the old sidekicks

  53. i luv sidekick Says:

    come*

  54. ncmacasl Says:

    There seems to be no paint at all. Solid plastic all over. After a few months there are only a few minor scratches on the plastic. Seems to be wearing very well.

  55. Meme Says:

    I would love to snatch up one of these brand new sidekick LX 09!
    Does anyone know if it would work still?

  56. ncmacasl Says:

    a Sidekick LX 09 or any pre-Android (Danger OS) sidekick will only work with voice and Texting (and media player) but no web access.

    There are hybrid post-Danger rebranded sidekick devices sold under several names from Sharp to local companies with a tweaked OS and including Opera Mini Browser

  57. jc Says:

    Well iam still using the sidekick lx09 in the uk, works fine for calls and text, but iam working on tricks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, i have delvelopers kit and a dev key( but the key not for my phone) we shall see!!!!, by the way there is also another sidekick being sold, if you were to type in at google 180 degree rotating screen and also look at youtube herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVWGXvajo0, same old lx 09 with touchscreen!!!!!!

  58. see more new sidekicks Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Kindofone1?feature=mhee

  59. ncmacasl Says:

    SIX MONTHS LATER: I still miss the Danger Sidekicks. I have a Sidekick 4G that I am finally getting used to after 6 months: Even though I have not Rooted or Rom’d the device, I finally figured out work-arounds for most of the buggy-ness; and I have found better replacement free apps to replace the ****-fest of the built-in apps. After 2 OTA updates from Tmo/Samsung the device is slightly better and slightly faster even though it is still using Froyo (an older version of Android).

    Despite its age (I was still using the 2007 Sidekick LX model) the phone was VERY responsive to multi-tasking and I could easily jump from mutilple programs and easily jump to make and answer phone calls. The newest Sidekick 4G is much slower at multitasking (but it is a bit better after my tweaking). IM was always on and extremely responsive. Sadly, since IM clients are now out of fashion (partly because the new OS’s are poor at implementing them??) it is no longer important and Texting and Facebook Messaging seems to have taken their place.

    I hope T-Mobile continues with future Sidekick (Android) models (maybe a beefed up LX model with an even larger screen and more memory, storage & responsiveness)

  60. kay Says:

    hi im from barbados and i tryin 2 get internet on my sidekick phone i try every thing what should i do

  61. ncmacasl Says:

    Kay,

    Well, if it is a version released before 2011, it will NOT have internet because Microsoft (who purchased the Sidekick’s Danger OS a few years ago) closed out all Sidekick data on May 31, 2011. All Danger-based Sidekicks used after that date will only function with Voice & Texting and will continue to work on any previously downloaded (before May 31) apps that do not require internet access (games, etc.), but no new apps can be downloaded.

    There are some Re-tooled “Sidekicks” out there that Sharp has re-marketed that do have a new web browser and these are being marketed as Feature Phones with internet access through regional US carriers – Mobilicity is one of these companies as is Cincinatti Bell, however they no longer use the “Sidekick” name as it is trademarked for use only by T-Mobile.

    If it is a Sidekick 4G (Android Based – released April 2011), you will need to get it unlocked to work with a local carrier.

  62. imlisang jamir Says:

    hi, m frm india boght sidekick lx 2009 bt m hvng a problem wit APN…cn any help me to 4 ths…cos badly ned to used internet…thnk u

  63. ncmacasl Says:

    TWELVE MONTHS LATER: I still miss the Danger Sidekicks. I have a Sidekick 4G that I am finally getting used to after 12 months: I finally Rooted the device (but won’t ROM it), I finally figured out additional work-arounds for most of the buggy-ness; and I have found better replacement free apps to replace the ****-fest of the built-in apps. After 2 OTA updates from Tmo/Samsung the device is slightly better and slightly faster even though it is still using Froyo (an older version of Android).

    Despite its age (I was still using the 2007 Sidekick LX model) the phone was VERY responsive to multi-tasking and I could easily jump from mutilple programs and easily jump to make and answer phone calls. The newest Sidekick 4G is much slower at multitasking (but it is a bit better after my tweaking). IM was always on and extremely responsive. Sadly, since IM clients are now out of fashion (partly because the new OS’s are poor at implementing them??) it is no longer important and Texting and Facebook Messaging seems to have taken their place.

    I hope T-Mobile continues with future Sidekick (Android) models (maybe a beefed up LX model with an even larger screen and more memory, storage & responsiveness)

    Any Wish Lists for what the Sidekick 4G LX (I am guesstimating the new name) should have??

    My list:

    * A bigger screen (closer to 4 inches).
    * Full Unicode Support, including manual entry of symbols (like Alt+#### on PCs and similar to older Sidekicks). Support for a wider array of symbols via the Symbols key (customizable??).
    * More built-in memory.
    * LED lights that are accessible to a wider array of apps (not just the built-in ones).
    * Smiley Button that works in ALL apps, not just the built-in Texting app
    * If you have to add bloatware (like DriveSmart) allow it to be easily uninstalled.
    *Allow customizable color themes.
    *provide a better font where it is clear the difference between l (lower L) I and 1 (like the older sidekicks did)

    Any others you want to add to the list??

  64. Setnakt Says:

    Wish-list? Yea I can think of a few. If some I mention are redundant to what you mentioned, it’s because it NEEDS to said twice (at least).
    1) Memory and more MEMORY! If I had known how pathetic the internal memory of the Nightwing* was I would have never got one (I’m on my 4th btw, long story, but in short it’s a CRAPPY CHEAP product, & thank god for warranties). iPhone & Android uses are sporting up to 32GB internal memory and this piece of **** doesn’t even have a lousy ONE GB! OMG WTF?! I mean SERIOUSLY??? And the RAM is so pathetic that I can’t run any serious program and not even basic games without both a Task Killer AND a RAM booster that kills tasks at least every second. Anything less and the device crashes in minutes. Pathetic! (*= I refuse to call this thing a “Sidekick” Sidekick is dead, this 4G android is NOT a Sidekick! Not because the screen doesn’t swivel, because the Sidekick-all models-multi tasked, this does not, the Sidekick was STABLE this is NOT, the Nightwing is a massive downgrade from any actual Sidekick, it is an insult to Sidekicks to call the Nightwing a Sidekick.)
    2) A manufacturer OTHER than Samsung. Why? Because Samsung is geared to total morons. Not an opinion, a fact. Prove it? Sure. I kept having the problem of emails being cut off in forwards so I wrote the designer of Maildroid (the email app I use) he informed me it wasn’t the app, but rather a issue with ALL Samsung devices that makes them limit all emails to apx 30K! I tried the std email app & gmail app & he was right! I am an Egyptologist and have essays that are over ½MB so now I have an android that I can’t use with them! Again PATHETIC! I will NEVER buy another Samsung product ever again, EVER, PERIOD.
    3) Trackball. Scrap the optical mouse, it’s **** (notice a theme here?). Takes like 4xs the effort to get an equal response to the trackball.
    4) Bring back direction pad and Answer/HangUp keys. This is ANDROID not iPhone why are we afraid of buttons? If I was an iDiot afraid of buttons I would have gotten an i(Diot)Phone (what do you think the “i” in iPhone stands for anyway?).
    5) Improved Keyboard. The ONLY redeeming feature of the Nightwing is the keyboard, but it’s still ****. If I hold a key an extra 1/20th of a second by mistake everything freezes and a stupid sub-menu for a few special characters comes up. DUMB! There should be a special key for that (you know like actual SIDEKICK’s had!).
    6) Better touchscreen. Not sure if this is device-specific or just a shortcoming of touchscreens in general but the thing is ****. Half the time I try to just scroll the screen I barely touch a link and now it thinks I wanted to click it, OR the stupid thing starts scrolling at like 100MPH –WHO WOULD EVER WANT SOME **** LIKE THAT?????? DUMB! This was my 1st touchscreen experience and I must say I am NOT impressed! I now believe more than ever only idiots want touchscreens (& especially touch-only-screens as per the i(Diot)Phone). After all it’s people like that who want touchscreens in the FRONT SEAT OF CARS! DUMB! So it’s bad to look away from the road to text, but somehow “OK” to look away from the road to a moronic car touchscreen to adjust the temp or music? How are you any less distracted? And when you crash into a guard rail how are you any less dead? I guess that’s meant as some sort of idiot-population-control device, but whatever it’s stupid and so is how touchscreens function in general (at least with the Nightwing for sure). FIX IT!!!!
    7) Built-in Spellcheck? Probably not possible since that was an OS-specific feature with Sidekicks. But speaking of which (OSs that is), you mention that the Nightwing uses an “older android OS” to which I say SO? Is there REALLY any notable improvement in say android 4.0? Every Sidekick OS was a MAJOR improvement over past OS, but with android, I just don’t see it. Spellcheck should be in android 4.0, if not how about a sane cut/paste system? No? Then WHAT? What’s the point? Can we even at least remove apps from the app screen (like with Sidekicks since OS2) or do I need a special app to do what should be basic & built-in? I had to get the Internet Commander app to do things that should be built in, is it built in 4.0 yet? From what I hear 4.0 works inferior to 2.2 with regards to not allowing you to even stop app processes (let alone kill the apps). DUMB!
    8) ACTUAL Cache. The “cache” the device has now DOES NOTHING! Well nothing except eat internal memory (YAY! -NOT). DUMB! Sidekick could (REAL) cache up to 100 web-pages so I could load numerous news stories online then backspace and read them offline. This POS wont cache even ONE web-page, not even ONE! Pathetic! Web searching with this is PAINFUL. Every time I check a topic then hit back the stupid piece of **** has to reload the entire previous web page. DUMB! I can only guess this “feature” is meant to force you to waste bandwidth & thus use up your data faster (how wrong & crooked is that?) But why have a fake cache then? DUMB!
    9) Better Camera. Enough said there, come on!
    10) Let the keyboard back light stay on for however long you have the screen set to stay lit. 1st thing I do when I get a device like this is change the screen timeout from like 5 seconds(!) the way the idiots who pre-program it for to 10 minutes so I don’t have to race to read/type anything. Would be nice not to have to speed-type to not be left in the dark via the keyboard back light.
    11) Better phone antenna. The cheap antenna on this cheap phone is a piece of ****. I mean why did I have perfect reception with every Sidekick I owned yet the supposedly 4G on this is about half as fast as dial-up? Every Sidekick I’ve ever owned was faster, BY FAR. And also about every 10 min I get “web page is unavailable” (stuff like Yahoo & Google!). Translation: try to LOG IN AGAIN! DUMB! I’m sick of it! Couple the bad antenna with the fake cache and web browsing is a nightmare. Takes half an hour to check new Twitter followers profiles the antenna is so pathetic.
    12) Option for long life battery. Come on android manufactures, ALL so-called smart phone had that option when it was just Blackberrys & Pocket PC’s & the like, then smartphones get popular and boom, it’s gone. Why???? Option for a longlife battery is the number ONE request from smartphone users yet only Droid Max offers such. And with 3G & 4G phones we need this option more than ever. I smashed my 3rd Nightwing and luckily got the entire package (not just the “handset” EVERYTHING) replaced via insurance. So that means i got an extra charger and 2nd battery which comes in VERY handy. But it shouldn’t be needed.

    In closing, Samsung (or SonOfSamsung as I call them) makes overpriced cheep ****, I will NOT be buying from them again (ANYTHING EVER). And Android OS is extremely archaic and overrated, we can do better (& I DON’T mean i(Diot)Phone ether). I am NOT impressed with Nightwing and hope T-Mobile does better. A keyboard is a MUST, but so is enough memory to run more than the bloatware the thing comes with, at least give us Google apps bloatware next time (Google Earth, Google Sky, etc) instead of dumb stuff like Amazon MP3 (like I would ever pay for a MP3s, I’ll pay for CD’s, for QUALITY, MP3 are equal to cassette tapes in quality, this isn’t 1975 i’m not paying for that ****). If I wanted moronic shallow garbage I would go for stuff like Siri & i(Diot)Phone, but since I’m on android I expect more quality & depth. And how about QUALITY manufactures next time like HTC, or LG. Or even Sharp again. Better not be more Samsung or (worse) Motorola (remember their Sidekick disaster which I PREDICTED btw), we don’t need more cheep **** products. Otherwise I hear Verizon has some QUALITY droids, I’m about sick of T-Mo anyhow after trying to sell us all out to the fascists at AT&T (worst service, worst phones, worst plans, worst coverage, worst network). I will give them ONE more chance, but if the Nightwing or another device like it is the “best” they have to offer,, I’m OUT.  

  65. Jay Says:

    Just wanted to say R.I.P. Sidekick!! Even though I can’t use any of you, Sidekick 3, ID, Slide, LX or LX 09…I still have you in my nightstand. I play with you sometimes, just for kicks…haha, get it? Ah well…maybe one day you’ll come back to revisit us :)

  66. Anonymous Says:

    Wow! A lot has changed since these days. I remember actively patrolling this website for some good information on future sidekick releases. I miss these days.

  67. LULU Says:

    I ride with Cricket now due to their unlimited plans bein’ cheap, but I had a Sidekick $1 a day plan so it wuz easy to give up. I literally had a SK3, SK-iD, Sk LX 07, SK 08, nd LX 09 before i just sadly but strongly gave up. They have keyboards like none other, and multitasking wuz the best! I know no phone since the Sidekick has been good at multitasking but I’m willing to give the Sidekick 4G a try. Touchscreen, AND I’m already used to Android? (iPhoneOS is the ONLY touch-only phone i’ll use, ALL new HTC phones look the exact same so I’m glad Samsung made the new SK, although I wuz a bit surprised when they said Samsung instead of HTC).

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  68. COCO Says:

    I had to get the Internet Commander app to do things that should be built in, is it built in 4.0 yet? From what I hear 4.0 works inferior to 2.2 with regards to not allowing you to even stop app processes (let alone kill the apps). DUMB!
    8) ACTUAL Cache. The “cache” the device has now DOES NOTHING! Well nothing except eat internal memory (YAY! -NOT). DUMB! Sidekick could (REAL) cache up to 100 web-pages so I could load numerous news stories online then backspace and read them offline.

    http://www.casquette-newera-pas-cher.com/

  69. JOJO Says:

    Despite its age (I was still using the 2007 Sidekick LX model) the phone was VERY responsive to multi-tasking and I could easily jump from mutilple programs and easily jump to make and answer phone calls. The newest Sidekick 4G is much slower at multitasking (but it is a bit better after my tweaking). IM was always on and extremely responsive. Sadly, since IM clients are now out of fashion (partly because the new OS’s are poor at implementing them??) it is no longer important and Texting and Facebook Messaging seems to have taken their place.

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  70. SHERLY Says:

    hey will NOT come back as per the old sidekicks. If you don’t have a manual written-out record of what apps you had I hope you got a good memory, because Android Market does NOT show what you had except purchased apps, the rest you are on your own to keep records of. I recommend that btw even if your smart enought to know better than to ever do a factory resit except as an absloute last resort (I learned the hard way) in case you have to get a warrenty replacement of one of these crappy cheap “Sidekicks” I’m on my THIRD device btw! The 1st the power button failed, and as dumbshit Android de

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  71. Jay Says:

    Just resigned a new contract with T-Mobile and pulled out my old SK3 for my dad to use. He loves it!

  72. sidekick 2009 Says:

    Honestly the sidekick community is what I liked. We had thefirst app store, AIM which was incredible, powered by danger, hiptop 3, sidekick profiles.. the list goes on

  73. Adrian Gomez Says:

    It’s been 3 years an I still miss the Sidekick

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