Comments on: Sidekick 3 vs iPhone http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/ Your source for rumors and speculations about leaked Sidekick/Hiptop info Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:38:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Dominica http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/#comment-8014 Dominica Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:57:01 +0000 http://www.hiptop3.com/?p=249#comment-8014 This guy ripped off iPhoneunboxed.com and probably is gonna scam someone as most people who can't post actual pictures of the item do. Much to eBay's commendment they are taking precautions on iPhone sales on the site: the seller must use PayPal as a method of payment (although its easy to be scammed by someone even using PayPal, trust me I know first hand) and they are also requiring sellers to take pictures of the iPhone or iPhones they have with there eBay user ID in the picture, if they have more than one they are required to take a picture of all of them together. Anyone not meeting these reqs gets their auction pulled first time and after that they get their username suspended. I will agree with Sam though, anyone who has had an iPhone in their hands wouldn't down it. Keyboard is a breeze to use, infact its not really different than a SK3s keyoard except for the fact its virtual. The only down falls though are that I can't put my own ringtones on there but that's not a big deal for me. I wouldn't give up my sidekick because its what I'm used to but it has definitely taken a back seat to my iPhone unless I get an IM maybe when the Zante comes out they can be equally loved lol. And seriously people stop complaining about the GB limitations on the iPhone compared to other iPods. None of you can probably say that you've actually used all 30, 60 or 80GB of your iPods. I've barely used 4GB on my 80GB and I know tons of songs. This guy ripped off iPhoneunboxed.com and probably is gonna scam someone as most people who can’t post actual pictures of the item do. Much to eBay’s commendment they are taking precautions on iPhone sales on the site: the seller must use PayPal as a method of payment (although its easy to be scammed by someone even using PayPal, trust me I know first hand) and they are also requiring sellers to take pictures of the iPhone or iPhones they have with there eBay user ID in the picture, if they have more than one they are required to take a picture of all of them together. Anyone not meeting these reqs gets their auction pulled first time and after that they get their username suspended. I will agree with Sam though, anyone who has had an iPhone in their hands wouldn’t down it. Keyboard is a breeze to use, infact its not really different than a SK3s keyoard except for the fact its virtual. The only down falls though are that I can’t put my own ringtones on there but that’s not a big deal for me. I wouldn’t give up my sidekick because its what I’m used to but it has definitely taken a back seat to my iPhone unless I get an IM maybe when the Zante comes out they can be equally loved lol. And seriously people stop complaining about the GB limitations on the iPhone compared to other iPods. None of you can probably say that you’ve actually used all 30, 60 or 80GB of your iPods. I’ve barely used 4GB on my 80GB and I know tons of songs.

]]> By: sam http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/#comment-8008 sam Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:35:57 +0000 http://www.hiptop3.com/?p=249#comment-8008 This is sad...I have been a loyal user of the sidekicks and up until the 3 i thought they were the best phones in the world. I have to say though the sidekick 3 ruined all that loyalty What a $300 piece of $&#*. I cannot believe you think the iPhone is worse as a web browser and a phone. Have you ever even used it? It is the most sophisticated piece of mouth watering technology i have ever laid my hands on and makes the sidekick 3 look like a child's play phone. As for the phone, it is the most elegant combination of Mac OSX and cellular functionality. It far surppasses my freezing, crashing sidekick which could not load a page i could read without me scrolling over it three times to find what i was looking for. Now for the keyboard. I do admit that within the first 5 minutes the keyboard may pose a bit of a challenge for a dyslexic 5 year old with fingers the size of twinkies, but any able bodied individual who is not suffering from morbid obesity will quickly get the hang of an intelligent keyboard that actually learns that way you type. I mean honestly I know you love your sidekick but when something better comes along you gotta admit defeat. This is sad…I have been a loyal user of the sidekicks and up until the 3 i thought they were the best phones in the world. I have to say though the sidekick 3 ruined all that loyalty What a $300 piece of $&#*. I cannot believe you think the iPhone is worse as a web browser and a phone. Have you ever even used it? It is the most sophisticated piece of mouth watering technology i have ever laid my hands on and makes the sidekick 3 look like a child’s play phone. As for the phone, it is the most elegant combination of Mac OSX and cellular functionality. It far surppasses my freezing, crashing sidekick which could not load a page i could read without me scrolling over it three times to find what i was looking for. Now for the keyboard. I do admit that within the first 5 minutes the keyboard may pose a bit of a challenge for a dyslexic 5 year old with fingers the size of twinkies, but any able bodied individual who is not suffering from morbid obesity will quickly get the hang of an intelligent keyboard that actually learns that way you type. I mean honestly I know you love your sidekick but when something better comes along you gotta admit defeat.

]]> By: Dave Kaufman - Techlife http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/#comment-7998 Dave Kaufman - Techlife Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:58:59 +0000 http://www.hiptop3.com/?p=249#comment-7998 I am really laughing hard at this....back in January 2007, my friend created an iPhone Papercraft unboxing. This guy has had all the hiptops since launch. I wrote about it in my syndicated column/blog and people laughed. (Since who could have an iPhone in January!?) So the person who's Ebay auction this is, was dumb enough to swipe this photo which everyone noted was wrong. Sadly my friend in this photo did get an iPhone and is possibly leaving his SK3. http://www.dkworldwide.com/techlife/archives/2007/01/11/iphone-unboxed-exclusive-see-an-iphone-in-the-wild/trackback I am really laughing hard at this….back in January 2007, my friend created an iPhone Papercraft unboxing. This guy has had all the hiptops since launch. I wrote about it in my syndicated column/blog and people laughed. (Since who could have an iPhone in January!?)

So the person who’s Ebay auction this is, was dumb enough to swipe this photo which everyone noted was wrong.

Sadly my friend in this photo did get an iPhone and is possibly leaving his SK3.

http://www.dkworldwide.com/techlife/archives/2007/01/11/iphone-unboxed-exclusive-see-an-iphone-in-the-wild/trackback

]]> By: SomeGuy http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/#comment-7997 SomeGuy Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:10:37 +0000 http://www.hiptop3.com/?p=249#comment-7997 Reasons I won't even bother with the iPhone (as it stands now): 1) No IM. 2) No SSH client. 3) Browser isn't much better on the iPhone than the SK. Yes, you heard me right. Both view regular HTML pages and all that. Neither supports flash, java applets, etc. iPhone does seem to allow for a richer set of javascript stuff for "Web 2.0" type applications but honestly, when I'm viewing a webpage on a small screen I just want to easily read the page I'm looking at. With the iPhone you have to do a lot of zooming in and out and horizontal scrolling just to read a page. Sure seeing the whole page "as intended" is a neat bit of eye candy at first but from a practicality standpoint, I prefer the page resizing to fit on the screen that the SK does. 4) No third party apps (Sure, you can't put anything you want on the SK but you have to admit that the SK catalog is getting pretty full these days. Plus if the iPhone ever DOES allow third party apps, you know it will be a similar model to how the SK works). 4) Cost. My monthly bills are much lower than what the lest expensive iPhone plan is and that's not to mention the cost of the iPhone itself. Not for me. Some things I think I would probably hate but would have to give it a week long try first: 1) The touchscreen keyboard compared to the very usable and real sidekick keyboard. I have big fingers. I like the tactile keyboard. If I was switching from, say, a blackberry or treo with the tiny keyboards they have, then it might be a different story but so far nothing out there can beat the sidekick's keyboard as far as I'm concerned. 2) I'd debate whether or not the iPhone's UI is any easy to use than the sidekick's. I can't imagine anything more easy to use than the sidekick UI. The only "benefit" the iPhone has is that is has a touchscreen. I hate touchscreens. 3) Speaking of touchscreens, I also hate smudges. Sounds like the iPhone is pretty scratch resistent so that's a good thing but smudges can be quite an annoyance and darn near impossible to avoid if you have to be touching the screen all the time just to use it. I really can't see the iPhone and Sidekick in the same market. As a music/video player, the iPhone wins hands down. As a phone, I can't imagine calling either one better than the other. As an internet device and especially an internet communication device, the sidekick wins hands down. The lack of IM seriously hurts the iPhone in this regard, the lack of physical keyboard probably does as well (at least compared to the large, usably, sidekick keyboard). Finally, I can't see them reaching the same market. The sidekick targets the mass consumer and especially the young adult and teen crowds. With a 2 year contract (same as the iPhone), the SK3 is $200 and the SKID is $100. The plans are cheaper (well, depending on how much voice you need and all, I suppose). The iPhone is targeted as consumers rather than business, yes, but at the price point they have set it's only going to be the hgiher end and/or tech savvy gadget lover and/orr apple fanboy markets. Few of the people in those markets probably have kept their sidekicks for very long before jumping to the next device or they would be jumping to anything Apple put out regardless of its features, etc. If I wanted a new iPod (and didn't care about the 4GB/8GB limitations of the iPhone compared to some of the other iPods) and didn't care so much about the internet communication side of things or about some of the useful and/or fun third party apps available from the Catalog (especially things like Terminal), I'd probably give the iPhone a good look over (even though I couldn't afford it right now) and might even consider it. But for now, there's still nothing that quite beats the sidekick for what I need (an all around communication device that has a great keyboard, pretty decent browser and some fun apps and games to pass the time with when in a waiting room or something). Reasons I won’t even bother with the iPhone (as it stands now):
1) No IM.
2) No SSH client.
3) Browser isn’t much better on the iPhone than the SK. Yes, you heard me right. Both view regular HTML pages and all that. Neither supports flash, java applets, etc. iPhone does seem to allow for a richer set of javascript stuff for “Web 2.0″ type applications but honestly, when I’m viewing a webpage on a small screen I just want to easily read the page I’m looking at. With the iPhone you have to do a lot of zooming in and out and horizontal scrolling just to read a page. Sure seeing the whole page “as intended” is a neat bit of eye candy at first but from a practicality standpoint, I prefer the page resizing to fit on the screen that the SK does.
4) No third party apps (Sure, you can’t put anything you want on the SK but you have to admit that the SK catalog is getting pretty full these days. Plus if the iPhone ever DOES allow third party apps, you know it will be a similar model to how the SK works).
4) Cost. My monthly bills are much lower than what the lest expensive iPhone plan is and that’s not to mention the cost of the iPhone itself. Not for me.

Some things I think I would probably hate but would have to give it a week long try first:
1) The touchscreen keyboard compared to the very usable and real sidekick keyboard. I have big fingers. I like the tactile keyboard. If I was switching from, say, a blackberry or treo with the tiny keyboards they have, then it might be a different story but so far nothing out there can beat the sidekick’s keyboard as far as I’m concerned.
2) I’d debate whether or not the iPhone’s UI is any easy to use than the sidekick’s. I can’t imagine anything more easy to use than the sidekick UI. The only “benefit” the iPhone has is that is has a touchscreen. I hate touchscreens.
3) Speaking of touchscreens, I also hate smudges. Sounds like the iPhone is pretty scratch resistent so that’s a good thing but smudges can be quite an annoyance and darn near impossible to avoid if you have to be touching the screen all the time just to use it.

I really can’t see the iPhone and Sidekick in the same market. As a music/video player, the iPhone wins hands down. As a phone, I can’t imagine calling either one better than the other. As an internet device and especially an internet communication device, the sidekick wins hands down. The lack of IM seriously hurts the iPhone in this regard, the lack of physical keyboard probably does as well (at least compared to the large, usably, sidekick keyboard). Finally, I can’t see them reaching the same market. The sidekick targets the mass consumer and especially the young adult and teen crowds. With a 2 year contract (same as the iPhone), the SK3 is $200 and the SKID is $100. The plans are cheaper (well, depending on how much voice you need and all, I suppose). The iPhone is targeted as consumers rather than business, yes, but at the price point they have set it’s only going to be the hgiher end and/or tech savvy gadget lover and/orr apple fanboy markets. Few of the people in those markets probably have kept their sidekicks for very long before jumping to the next device or they would be jumping to anything Apple put out regardless of its features, etc.

If I wanted a new iPod (and didn’t care about the 4GB/8GB limitations of the iPhone compared to some of the other iPods) and didn’t care so much about the internet communication side of things or about some of the useful and/or fun third party apps available from the Catalog (especially things like Terminal), I’d probably give the iPhone a good look over (even though I couldn’t afford it right now) and might even consider it. But for now, there’s still nothing that quite beats the sidekick for what I need (an all around communication device that has a great keyboard, pretty decent browser and some fun apps and games to pass the time with when in a waiting room or something).

]]> By: Brandon http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/#comment-7996 Brandon Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:56:32 +0000 http://www.hiptop3.com/?p=249#comment-7996 Winning bid: US $1,125.00 Winning bid: US $1,125.00

]]> By: Abercrombieboy http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/sidekick-3-vs-iphone/#comment-7995 Abercrombieboy Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:14:51 +0000 http://www.hiptop3.com/?p=249#comment-7995 Well hes not selling real iphones since the box looks nothing like that for the iphone. He would def go with the iphone if he had real ones... I did! Well hes not selling real iphones since the box looks nothing like that for the iphone. He would def go with the iphone if he had real ones… I did!

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