Microsoft Lays Off Danger Employees

We’re hearing lots of rumors left and right about some lay-offs of Danger employees by Microsoft (who purchased Danger).  There is a lot of hearsay and speculation about what this means.  While Microsoft did announce a general across-the-board series of layoffs, we can’t help but wonder how much harder the Danger group was hit for a variety of possible reasons.  There’s been rumors of Danger employees being moved to the secretive “Pink” project that Microsoft is working on.  (Supposedly the Pink project is very similar to Danger’s back-end service)  The Sidekick LX 2009 is days from launch and so a lot of employees that were needed for that might have been let go.  Or they could have just pulled names out of a hat, who knows.  Lay-offs are never an easy thing.

It doesn’t look like it was the entire Danger team, but definitely sounds like more than one or two. We’ve gathered up some posts to Twitter about the lay-offs. The below are either a) from a Danger employee, b) from a previous Danger employee, or c) directed at a Danger employee.

@ceejbot: Oh look, muscled goons walking around the building: layoffs today.

@ceejbot: My officemates all just got laid off. It doesn’t make any sense.

@ian: WTF? Microsoft is laying off awesome people from Danger.

@Perigosa: @jag Ugh. I am so sorry (for everyone else too).

@dangermikeb: Rough day at the office

@ahpook: Condolences to dangersoft peeps affected by layoffs, directly or otherwise.

@dangermikeb: The end of a crappy day at work.

that sucks about the danger layoffs. msft really had no clue what they wanted out of that, i guess. :(

@akrasia: Suffocating sadness with a load of cookies.

@tuony: Condolences to Danger peeps who were laid off today. It’s never fun, however you may be considered the lucky ones after all is said and done

To add to this information, there was also an interesting comment conversation posted on an Engadget review of the new Sidekick LX 2009.  No idea who “Aenar” is or where he is getting his information from, but he provokes some interesting conversation:

Aenar @ May 6th 2009 12:45PM

Enjoy the last sidekick. MSFT just fired the remaining SK staff with armed guards and only made this thing to avoid a lawsuit with TMobile.
Roz Ho congratukated the staff and then fired the employees for making it. MSFT just wanted the IP for WinMo anyway.
Now you get a seriously debilitated “PINK”device from MSFT as your next “upgrade.” From what I have heard, it’s a joke. No PIM apps and no 3rd party development system. A typical MSFT consumer product. Copy,rush to market and FAIL.
No street cred-get the iPhone

aenar @ May 6th 2009 4:47PM

30-40 people were let go. The UI team, media teams, hardware and some associated PMs with the Sidekick. Shocking since Microsoft is mostly Political Project Managers with chips on their shoulders.
The remainder of the SK team that the PINK team needs to write in CE(not java or NetBSD) was moved to PINK or WINMO months ago. So the people who shut the lights off on the Sidekick were thanked in an email by the Roz “Dragon Woman” Ho and fired promptly. Then, to keep employees from going apeshitzz, they had the stormtroopers from Securitas(with arms this time) walk the halls and maintain control. Sort of like the Stazi.
So,
a) No more sidekicks. The people that made them are fired or working on the mirage of PINK,
b) Microsoft tried to weasel out of Danger’s contract with TMobile but were threatened with lawsuit
c) To make schedule, MSFT had to ship the Sidekick as designed at that point which was NetBSD and Java. VP of PMX was said to have cried at that announcement.

That’s it. No more Sidekicks.
Naming sources? Do you work for the Dragon Lady-why would I call out these sources. So I can get more people fired? The information is 90% public domain from public feeds anyway.

We don’t want to cause anyone to panic, so we’re not going to make any rash assumptions about the future of the Sidekick.  Just wanted to toss the information that’s flying around up for you guys.  Feel free to speculate in the comments and if you have any hard and fast info, please email admin@hiptop3.com.

138 Responses to “Microsoft Lays Off Danger Employees”

  1. Masse Says:

    Oi

  2. Koloheboy Says:

    *shock*

  3. Marcofromda510 Says:

    Talk about dropping a bomb shell, if it is true, the sidekick had a good run, to bad it never had the proper management to reach its full potential. As an unimportant off topic side note, has anyone gotten their tracking numbers for their sidekicks yet? I tryed using the reference number but it hasn’t worked, its just your mobile number isn’t it?

  4. James Says:

    This is a damn shame, I really feel for everyone at Danger who was laid off today. I hope they can find jobs sooner rather than later.

  5. Dyingforit Says:

    OMG I CAN’T BELIVE IT! WHAT THE HE-LL IS WITH THAT WHY WOULD THEY JUST STOP MAKING SIDEKICKS?!! DON’T THEY HAVE SOME CONTRACTS TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING?! I AM SOOOOOOOOOO DISSAPPOINTED!!!

  6. Jesse Says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the last sidekick. Not much went into it,, Other then extra features. It felt like it was pushed in a hurry.

  7. krisnwo420 Says:

    Yeah, I was reading about all this yesterday.
    Frankly, it makes sense. That’s the scary part.
    And even if you bring the new hardware into things, maybe that’s why it’s such a clusterf” right now.

    Kinda sad to hear, but I guess that’s what happens with a corporation like Microsoft wanting to buy their way in to a market. (XBox, Zune, etc)

  8. capt712 Says:

    Well I for one hope these layoffs are just being taken out of context. It is turbulent times and a few layoffs are expected, especially once the project they were hired for is done (my condolences to all displaced employees, thanks for the wonderful work). I feel the sidekick is a pretty good “cash cow” and they would be mad to discontinue it. As someone who has hearing issues and prefers a simple texting device, the sidekick is perfect for me. Everyone is trying to make “the next big thing” but they shouldn’t toss old reliable to do so.

  9. Dyingforit Says:

    Same (as above) they would be mad to stop this! But most definately until the economy gets better this is just sad!

  10. Marcofromda510 Says:

    Again the post says to take it with a grain of salt, at best this is just speculation. So I wouldnt take this to seriously until theirs some hard evidence or atleast a press release from Microsoft. If Microsoft really does kill the sidekick, I won’t concider buying a laptop from them when I make my purchase…

  11. Jeremy Says:

    Dyingforit on May 7, 2009 at 3:01 pm said:

    OMG I CAN’T BELIVE IT! WHAT THE HE-LL IS WITH THAT WHY WOULD THEY JUST STOP MAKING SIDEKICKS?!! DON’T THEY HAVE SOME CONTRACTS TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING?! I AM SOOOOOOOOOO DISSAPPOINTED!!!

    Nobody said they were stopping the SK. However it is some concerning news about the FUTURE of the SK. Go take a valium and sit down.

  12. azn Says:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

  13. S!dekick user Says:

    Agreed its all speculation. With the lx 09 awaiting launch lets just be happy that that one came out!

  14. Marcofromda510 Says:

    Just to add, theirs no ground breaking evidence, the whole pink thing is circulating around the web, and the rest is a he said she said story. Like I previously said, I won’t believe it until theirs hard evidence or atleast a press release…

  15. James Says:

    I’m pretty sure “pink” is rumored to be a verizon product. “Aenar” seems like he knows what he’s talking about and it kind of makes sense that T-Mobile is making a “slow transition to the google phone” being the face of the company like the Sidekick used to be, also with the new sidekick data plans being identical in price to the G1 data plans, it’s starting to seem like that is the direction that the company is going with.

    I hope not

  16. Jeremy Says:

    I dont see this latest bit of news as the “end of the Sidekick”.

    I see it as Microsoft doing what a lot of companies are doing right now because of the state of the economy. And that is laying people off to stay afloat. The Sidekick LX 2009 was in development last year, and this year it was finally announced and completed (maybe even last year). The product is completed and being pushed out the door. Some are being moved to other projects under Microsoft, others, sadly were let go.

    Now focus is being put into something else now. Who knows, maybe after this PINK thing, development will begin for the new SK. Sure I am a bit worried and could be completely wrong in my thinking but I see the Sidekick as one of T-Mobile’s BIG sellers and stopping it now makes no sense.

    And what is this hog wash about how the new 2009 SK was underdeveloped and rushed? I completely disagree.

  17. LStrike Says:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    I know overall the Sidekick may be one of TMobile’s top selling devices over the course of time. That being said I wonder if the G1 with 1 Million sales in a relatively short period of time doesn’t surpass any one Sidekick for the same period of time?

    The way Android is shaping up (and if you have not experienced Android 1.5 or Cupcake as it is better known as then do not comment) there could be a change as to most popular TMobile phone.

    The thing is the Sidekick is that TMobile exclusive that you can’t get anywhere else. Android will be on every carriers networks within the next couple of years.

    It will be a sad day if the Danger OS and Sidekick device goes away. Regardless of what you all are saying here VERY few of the folks posting here have even touched an SK LX 09 so I don’t understand how you feel it is rushed or half baked? The editors at Engadget loved it and they tend to have a pretty strong Apple bias they would destroy the Sidekick with extreme prejudice if it had been as you say half baked or felt rushed.

  18. MentallyFLY Says:

    If this is the end of the SIDEKICK. Then I am deeply saddened! I’ve been pretty loyal to TMOBz for there SideKick line and it’ll hurt, but let’s just say the few that were kept from danger can some how make the Danger OS mesh with WINMO or whatever else microsoft has up there sleeves. It would be in there better interest to keep the loyal sidekick users and make something that will somehow compensate for the death of the Sidekick!!! Now we can all be bamboozled with some bored bloggers….If were not LET’S BOYCOTT microsoft until they go public and start talking about another sidekick!!

  19. krisnwo420 Says:

    No offense to the fanboys here, but we’re comparing apples to mangos here.

    Yes, the Sidekick may be the #1 selling phone that T-Mobile has, or maybe it’s the G1. But in the grand scheme of things, T-Mobile is the #4 phone company in the US. It’s often not even mentioned in most things because of how far behind they are in technology.

    And as nice as Sidekicks are, G1 blows it away in most arenas. As do numerous other phones. SK’s used to mean something, but other phones caught up and surpased what Danger brought to the table. And as other phones evolved, Danger stayed behind. Now with the iPhone & G1, you can have countless apps to do any number of things. Sidekick? Still bound by whatever they feel like putting in their download catalouge. And most of it is overpriced to begin with.

    Seriously, a SNAFU like this release is turning out to be is a serious deal breaker for someone that might be on the fence about staying with T-Mobile to begin with. Especially with these rumors of Danger pretty much being dismantled by Micro$oft.

  20. Jeremy Says:

    LStrike on May 7, 2009 at 4:38 pm said:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    I know overall the Sidekick may be one of TMobile’s top selling devices over the course of time. That being said I wonder if the G1 with 1 Million sales in a relatively short period of time doesn’t surpass any one Sidekick for the same period of time?

    The way Android is shaping up (and if you have not experienced Android 1.5 or Cupcake as it is better known as then do not comment) there could be a change as to most popular TMobile phone.

    The thing is the Sidekick is that TMobile exclusive that you can’t get anywhere else. Android will be on every carriers networks within the next couple of years.

    It will be a sad day if the Danger OS and Sidekick device goes away. Regardless of what you all are saying here VERY few of the folks posting here have even touched an SK LX 09 so I don’t understand how you feel it is rushed or half baked? The editors at Engadget loved it and they tend to have a pretty strong Apple bias they would destroy the Sidekick with extreme prejudice if it had been as you say half baked or felt rushed.

    I have spent the past 17 hours playing with my 09 LX and thus far love it and hands down it is the best SK to date (as expected). I keep reading these posts about how it was rushed, it isnt ready, etc and I just dont get it.

  21. Gabby Says:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    I definitely agree.

  22. Chaos Says:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    “Aenar” is probably right. Microsoft already tried to get out of the Sidekick Contract, but were slapped with a lawsuit, now that the new sidekick is out, they may not have to develop the software for a new one.

    Since the sidekick is t-mo’s best selling phone it will not die. Because Tmo owns the sidekick trademark, they can put out a Nokia 1100 and call it that.

    What “Aenar” is probably saying is the next Sidekick will either run on Windows CE (Which will fail, like all other WinMo devices. Remember TouchFlo on the HTC Touch? Ultra laggy and mega bloat), OR the next sidekick will run on andriod.

    Also, unless the fired Danger devs make a new company and develop the software, the new sidekick software will be made by a whole new group.

    This means that the next sidekick will have a COMPLETELY different OS.

    But then again I have no sources, and it could be all a load of ****.

  23. slidekick user Says:

    It makes some sense to me, why would a co. with a history like microdoft buy out danger other then to absorb what they want out of it and cut the rest.

    also, sidekick is tmobile’s name. They could very well brand a different device and android OS with the name “sidekick” if they wanted too.

  24. meme Says:

    My heart sank reading this. Isn’t the Sidekick market a fairly large market? I mean year after year, more and more people who have the sidekick buy the following sidekick. Most people are like me. They have had the SK2 since it was released in 05. Like I said, I will continue to buy the Sidekicks as long as they keep producing new ones. This phone almost feels like a pet to me. Sounds weird but it’s an awesome phone that does just about everything.

  25. hotpocket Says:

    Chaos on May 7, 2009 at 5:50 pm said:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    “Aenar” is probably right. Microsoft already tried to get out of the Sidekick Contract, but were slapped with a lawsuit, now that the new sidekick is out, they may not have to develop the software for a new one.

    Since the sidekick is t-mo’s best selling phone it will not die. Because Tmo owns the sidekick trademark, they can put out a Nokia 1100 and call it that.

    What “Aenar” is probably saying is the next Sidekick will either run on Windows CE (Which will fail, like all other WinMo devices. Remember TouchFlo on the HTC Touch? Ultra laggy and mega bloat), OR the next sidekick will run on andriod.

    Also, unless the fired Danger devs make a new company and develop the software, the new sidekick software will be made by a whole new group.

    This means that the next sidekick will have a COMPLETELY different OS.

    But then again I have no sources, and it could be all a load of ****.

    Based on everything I’ve read, I like what you’ve said the best, and it sounds the most logical. I definitely hope they don’t change the OS though. :/

  26. s. Says:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

  27. meme Says:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    lol

  28. Mulan Says:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Yeah, we definitely believe you. A lot.

  29. crazyforwhat? Says:

    As of 11pm eastern time, danger developers are alive and well. They may have laid off some engineers, but there are still plenty of apps and games being created for the catalog, which TMO controls.

    Microsoft bought danger solely for the technology, as the above article stated. Danger has one of the most advanced back-ends created, and that was something they wanted for their use.

    Pink has been rumored to bed headed to Verizon as a competitor to the iphone, Also, rumor has it that apple will be selling the iphone Jr through Verizon. Should be interesting.

  30. J Says:

    Mulan on May 7, 2009 at 8:09 pm said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Yeah, we definitely believe you. A lot.

    there was a touch screen project coming up but my friends dad works for danger and she said the project got scrapped because of the economy.

  31. coolanon Says:

    “I see it as Microsoft doing what a lot of companies are doing right now because of the state of the economy. And that is laying people off to stay afloat.”

    This is Microsoft one of the largest companies in the world, they don’t need to lay off 40 employees to stay afloat. IMO the guy is right Microsoft has a history of buying companies for source code and then shutting them down all in an effort to destroy the competition and feed their crappy OS. This is incredibly sad because the Sidekick was just now becoming a competitive phone but Microsoft buying Danger will most likely end in disaster for any future sidekicks. I’m so happy I own a Macbook now, I can no longer support the Microsoft machine.

  32. Setnakt Says:

    I don’t believe this “Aenar” person at all. My favorite quote from his, as with all losers is: “No street cred-get the iPhone”(!). Granted this “Pink” may suck, but only losers and idiots think there is only one possiable alternative to the Sidekick, the endlessly over-hyped and never disapointing iPhone (and that’s not even mentioning the unethical company you are forced to go through to use it). What about the Google Phone, Android, Windows Mobal, all those Blackberrys? They don’t exist? Most are far superior to the odious idiot phone, and who gives a rats *** about “street cred” I just want a good phone, not some prop to show my street thug bros before we go rape and rob people (and nice demographic there). Stupid as hell, like saying Sony cancels the Playstation get the X-Box or your only other option is to shoot yourself in the face, Wii has no “street cred”. I’m tempted to buy a Pink when it comes out based on it being “no street cred” (ie: non-thug) on that weight alone! And people say the Sidekick is a “toy”, like I’ve always said, so is the idiot phone, same catagory, a toy for thugs. At least the company that supports it is ethical, and it’s not pathaticly shoved down your neck every-other commercial like the single and apparently (according to some) one and only other smart phone in existance. I never believe anything from iPhone iDiots, especially when they got no sources, no REAL cred. Time will tell who’s lieing, but you will never see me on a iPhone.

  33. GoD Says:

    IF THEY STOP MAKING SIDEKICKS I WILL PERSONALLY “CHRIS BROWN” BILL GATES AND TAKE A **** ON HIS MOTHERS GRAVE…

  34. serpentor Says:

    It was the best of times…. It was the worse of times…

    As happy and excited as I am to be getting the LX09, hearing this news hurts just as much:/ But I’m not surprised. I didn’t think any good could come from ms buying Danger. Actually I was expecting ms to f up the sidekick by trying to cram winmo into it, but we get one last sk.

    This isn’t a bad way of going out. It’ll make me cherish my time with LX09 that much more….

  35. Cassie Says:

    Gah this better not be true,
    That means the the 09 probs wont even make it to AU then.
    x x Cassie

  36. azn Says:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Fail.

  37. crammed Says:

    first of all .. i dun understand why is microsoft so stupid and inseensitive. …. if they stopped sidekick just to sell there cheap crappy products ill be really pissed off….

    sidekick is one of its own class…and micrsoft is now where near its feets…

    the only reason they have of stopping is beacuse they r scared shitless of its fan following..

  38. Jim Booblooshi Says:

    I like boobays ;)

  39. Nizzle Says:

    Truthfully I believe something of this nature is going on. The new Sidekick (which I have actually ordered) is really similar to the previous versions in terms of design and interaction. True there are new features but nothing really out of the ordinary in terms of extra **** piled on. GPS is a natural social extension, same with Twitter and the social apps added in. Not much else changed really besides a better screen and a few tweaks.

    Do I think Microsoft acquired Danger for the patents and tech? Damn straight I do. They would have been stupid not to, especially if their new device/platform needs these features.

    Same with the thought of M$ canning the employees it doesn’t need. I also believe it released this Sidekick since it was basically finished when they acquired Danger. It allowed them to make a quick buck.

    Danger was a small company. The idea that it takes a while for them to upgrade the OS and such is not out of the ordinary. This is the reason we kept getting kicks that could barely be considered upgrades since the SK3. T-Mobile needed new devices at a decent interval and Danger couldn’t keep up with the innovations. Part of the reason I think Moto got involved in the first place, though that turned out terrible.

    The final thing is the Sidekick line won’t die. Will the current Danger/Sharp devices die? Probably, though Sharp may still produce the newer devices, they will probably have a different OS. It has been speculated since the merger/buyout that M$ was going to move to Windows Mobile and I personally thought the same thing.

    In all honesty, I think the reason the LX09 took so long to come out so that M$ could buy time in terms of releasing a newer device. Especially since it will probably be a while before we get another Sidekick.

    End Rant.

  40. recognizedakick Says:

    No doubt this is sad news but then again its Microsoft. If they are actually trying to get rid of the “Sidekick” who’s to say that they won’t make it better and more up-to-date?

    I mean, I LOVE the SK more than the average population but we have to admit there’s some features on it that’s just so frustrating! Microsoft just may be coming out w/their own version of the “Sidekick” and calling it something different. Something more worth our while.

    If it is the last SK just kno that this fan already has hers on the way and will take advantage of the last one. But I am not worried about the future getting worse before it gets better.

  41. Anonymous Says:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    I actually work as a manager in the T-mobile Seattle phone developing office and I am officially stating there are in fact THREE, yep three new sidekicks coming out!

    See how that works? -_-

  42. Anonymous Says:

    If its true that MKST is going to try to get rid of the sidekick, T-mobile will do something I’m sure. Anyways, I doubt MKST is trying to get rid of the sidekick and it was just your average (for these days) layoff.

  43. Anonymous Says:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Oh wow! I work there too! yeah I saw them with you remember? Im the dude with the hair and the eyes….

    What a load of ****

  44. T-Dot Says:

    hey s.
    You do kno that t-mobile hq is in belleview washington right? Of course you do, you know somebody.. Lol

  45. alex Says:

    ugh. this sucks if it’s true. the sidekicks are amazing phones!

  46. crazyforwhat Says:

    I got my tracking information on UPS. Estimated delivery says 5/12!!!!!

  47. recognizedakick Says:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:55 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Oh wow! I work there too! yeah I saw them with you remember? Im the dude with the hair and the eyes….

    What a load of ****

    Are we really supposed to believe this? Please don’t waste our time. Sidekick news is serious news. Thank u.

  48. Sidekick TPA Says:

    This sounds like a the first chapter of a new Dan Brown novel.

  49. didusee Says:

    Ill be picking up mine on the 13th, but this kind of made me sad.

    I really dont need an “open” device. I need a device that works, and well.

    The sidekick, having a closed OS, from what I’ve seen works incredibly well for what it does, with no delays or stutters. It just works.

    The minute you try to create something thats open, that tries to do other things, you over complicate it.

    The whole reason I wanted a sidekick was because Ive used an iphone, a blackberry, and a winmo device, and they all suck, why? because they try to do too much, and dont do core things well enough, at least not to my liking.

    I do think that Tmobile will be banking on their Google phone as their flagship device for a while, and even wouldnt be surprised to see a sidekick model with android in the future.

    I really hope I never see winmo on anything called a sidekick.

  50. LStrike Says:

    Jeremy on May 7, 2009 at 5:05 pm said:

    LStrike on May 7, 2009 at 4:38 pm said:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    I know overall the Sidekick may be one of TMobile’s top selling devices over the course of time. That being said I wonder if the G1 with 1 Million sales in a relatively short period of time doesn’t surpass any one Sidekick for the same period of time?

    The way Android is shaping up (and if you have not experienced Android 1.5 or Cupcake as it is better known as then do not comment) there could be a change as to most popular TMobile phone.

    The thing is the Sidekick is that TMobile exclusive that you can’t get anywhere else. Android will be on every carriers networks within the next couple of years.

    It will be a sad day if the Danger OS and Sidekick device goes away. Regardless of what you all are saying here VERY few of the folks posting here have even touched an SK LX 09 so I don’t understand how you feel it is rushed or half baked? The editors at Engadget loved it and they tend to have a pretty strong Apple bias they would destroy the Sidekick with extreme prejudice if it had been as you say half baked or felt rushed.

    I have spent the past 17 hours playing with my 09 LX and thus far love it and hands down it is the best SK to date (as expected). I keep reading these posts about how it was rushed, it isnt ready, etc and I just dont get it.

    My post wasn’t saying it was rushed I was, like you, commented on those post saying it was rushed etc saying that they are pretty foolish with their blind assessments.

    Like you, most folks actually using the devices are saying they are super polished. Anyone who bought a gen 1 G1 pre-cupcake can tell you what a half baked, rushed phone feels like!

  51. LStrike Says:

    GoD on May 7, 2009 at 10:24 pm said:

    IF THEY STOP MAKING SIDEKICKS I WILL PERSONALLY “CHRIS BROWN” BILL GATES AND TAKE A **** ON HIS MOTHERS GRAVE…

    Maybe we should leave Bill Gates alone and focus on Steve Ballmer since he handles day to day operations and Bill is kinda retired and all.

    Go crazy on Ballmer though! He can handle it.

  52. s person Says:

    i know it’s in bellevue, but if youre not from here you don’t really know where that is necessarily . So it’s better to say seattle o_o

  53. s person Says:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:40 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    I actually work as a manager in the T-mobile Seattle phone developing office and I am officially stating there are in fact THREE, yep three new sidekicks coming out!

    See how that works? -_-

    lol. you don’t have to believe us. we’re not asking you to ;)
    we’ll just see your reactions next year.

  54. Jon Says:

    Damn, I wonder if Sharp can still mfg the hardware and just put new software on it… Android?

  55. Mulan Says:

    Jon on May 8, 2009 at 3:19 pm said:

    Damn, I wonder if Sharp can still mfg the hardware and just put new software on it… Android?

    Sharp does not own that software.

  56. Zapf Says:

    Sharp can just download the software and make it themselves. Android is Open Source and FREE. If sharp has some engineers they can recreate the sidekick. In fact it probably would be better

  57. crazyforwhat? Says:

    s person on May 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm said:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:40 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    I actually work as a manager in the T-mobile Seattle phone developing office and I am officially stating there are in fact THREE, yep three new sidekicks coming out!

    See how that works? -_-

    lol. you don’t have to believe us. we’re not asking you to ;)
    we’ll just see your reactions next year.

    Dude, store managers don’t know squat!

  58. Zapf Says:

    capt712 on May 7, 2009 at 3:29 pm said:

    Well I for one hope these layoffs are just being taken out of context. It is turbulent times and a few layoffs are expected, especially once the project they were hired for is done (my condolences to all displaced employees, thanks for the wonderful work). I feel the sidekick is a pretty good “cash cow” and they would be mad to discontinue it. As someone who has hearing issues and prefers a simple texting device, the sidekick is perfect for me. Everyone is trying to make “the next big thing” but they shouldn’t toss old reliable to do so.

    Microsoft has plenty of revenue and would not have to fire the Danger team unless the current microdope employees didn’t feel threatened. Economy my butt…They have a zillion floating logs on the payroll including Ballmer

  59. Anonymous Says:

    recognizedakick on May 8, 2009 at 10:20 am said:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:55 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Oh wow! I work there too! yeah I saw them with you remember? Im the dude with the hair and the eyes….

    What a load of ****

    Are we really supposed to believe this? Please don’t waste our time. Sidekick news is serious news. Thank u.

    I was being sarcastic lol

    The post I was first quoted was garbage.

  60. Anonymous Says:

    I just got my tracking info available! :D

    1Z 3V8 91R 03 7980 134 6

    did anybody else?

  61. Anonymous Says:

    LStrike on May 8, 2009 at 2:17 pm said:

    GoD on May 7, 2009 at 10:24 pm said:

    IF THEY STOP MAKING SIDEKICKS I WILL PERSONALLY “CHRIS BROWN” BILL GATES AND TAKE A **** ON HIS MOTHERS GRAVE…

    Maybe we should leave Bill Gates alone and focus on Steve Ballmer since he handles day to day operations and Bill is kinda retired and all.

    Go crazy on Ballmer though! He can handle it.

    He sure can go crazy lol “I’m a PC!!!! And I LOVE this company!!!!” – Steve Ballmer

  62. willy Says:

    Marcofromda510 on May 7, 2009 at 2:57 pm said:

    Talk about dropping a bomb shell, if it is true, the sidekick had a good run, to bad it never had the proper management to reach its full potential. As an unimportant off topic side note, has anyone gotten their tracking numbers for their sidekicks yet? I tryed using the reference number but it hasn’t worked, its just your mobile number isn’t it?

    yea i got mine but they just barely got it and it think they are sending it

  63. serpentor Says:

    just got a txt from tmo with my tracking number!!!

  64. recognizedakick Says:

    on May 9, 2009 at 12:01 am said:

    I just got my tracking info available! :D

    1Z 3V8 91R 03 7980 134 6

    did anybody else?

    Yep! Me too

  65. recognizedakick Says:

    on May 8, 2009 at 11:57 pm said:

    recognizedakick on May 8, 2009 at 10:20 am said:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:55 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    Oh wow! I work there too! yeah I saw them with you remember? Im the dude with the hair and the eyes….

    What a load of ****

    Are we really supposed to believe this? Please don’t waste our time. Sidekick news is serious news. Thank u.

    I was being sarcastic lol

    The post I was first quoted was garbage.

    O I kno. I was agreeing wit u.

  66. dirtygore Says:

    microsoft probably finally figured out how **** the sk really is. ihow can 1 phone be so far behind when it comes to tech.

  67. zman Says:

    They wont stop making sidekicks its just the danger team might be gone, its stupid to stop making them cuz they have will always have those people that will pay 400 plus for phone

  68. chaos Says:

    Mulan on May 8, 2009 at 3:37 pm said:

    Jon on May 8, 2009 at 3:19 pm said:

    Damn, I wonder if Sharp can still mfg the hardware and just put new software on it… Android?

    Sharp does not own that software.

    They don’t have to own it, Andriod is open source.

  69. azn Says:

    s person on May 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm said:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:40 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    I actually work as a manager in the T-mobile Seattle phone developing office and I am officially stating there are in fact THREE, yep three new sidekicks coming out!

    See how that works? -_-

    lol. you don’t have to believe us. we’re not asking you to ;)
    we’ll just see your reactions next year.

    Do you have a conjoined twin? Since you refer to yourself as “we”?
    Also, it’s called using the Microsoft Live Search app:
    Bellevue =/= Seattle.
    Fail
    Fail
    Fail
    Fail
    Fail

    Lemme guess, the second Sidekick is going to be a Sidekick FLIP?
    -__-

  70. LStrike Says:

    azn on May 10, 2009 at 8:48 am said:

    s person on May 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm said:

    on May 8, 2009 at 6:40 am said:

    s. on May 7, 2009 at 7:50 pm said:

    I seriously doubt this.

    I know someone who works at T-Mobile Corporate in Seattle in developing new phones. They’ve already got the next two sidekicks made, and trust me, they’re amazing :)

    However, if they decide to cut off the SK line, I will be very disappointed. Sidekicks are so fun and it would be a shame if the next sidekicks aren’t released. There’s a touch screen one coming up…

    I actually work as a manager in the T-mobile Seattle phone developing office and I am officially stating there are in fact THREE, yep three new sidekicks coming out!

    See how that works? -_-

    lol. you don’t have to believe us. we’re not asking you to ;)
    we’ll just see your reactions next year.

    Do you have a conjoined twin? Since you refer to yourself as “we”?
    Also, it’s called using the Microsoft Live Search app:
    Bellevue =/= Seattle.
    Fail
    Fail
    Fail
    Fail
    Fail

    Lemme guess, the second Sidekick is going to be a Sidekick FLIP?
    -__-

    shakes…ugh…can you imagine SK Flip…kinda like the LG Voyager? YUCK!

  71. nolatron is hiptop.com/poweredbydangers's appletech Says:

    nolatron is appletech from poweredbydanger the sidekick forum….this is a fact can prove it for u, he changed his name thinking people wouldn’t know but i do

  72. azn Says:

    nolatron is hiptop.com/poweredbydangers’s appletech on May 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm said:

    nolatron is appletech from poweredbydanger the sidekick forum….this is a fact can prove it for u, he changed his name thinking people wouldn’t know but i do

    No one really cares.

  73. john nissan Says:

    zman on May 9, 2009 at 9:26 pm said:

    They wont stop making sidekicks its just the danger team might be gone, its stupid to stop making them cuz they have will always have those people that will pay 400 plus for phone

    Really bro? You think? That’s like saying GM is going to keep making H2s after they gid rid of their hummer division this year.

    Anyone who is still getting this phone is die hard… the LX 08 is/was my last sidekick

  74. nukkieplz Says:

    Does no one remember that forum posted in an earlier post that was about the new sidekick 09 and it said something about there being 2 lines of kicks, one more high class and the other more affordable. I am assuming micro is getting a new danger team, just a feeling. Thoughts?

  75. Zapf Says:

    This is like buying the last Pontiac Firebird. Tmobile must love all this rumormilling-who is going to buy a dead line of product?
    If TMobile has 2 more sidekicks on the Barbeque, it will not have the hiptop OS on it. It will have an Android OS on it. So take your choice:
    1) Buy a dead OS and product line
    2) or buy a device that will be a android-powered Sidekick by TMobile

    Remember, Sidekick is a brand. It can have any engine in it they want. It could be a Symbian phone for all they care.
    The PINK phone sounds like its never going to ship-and who wants a Microsoft product anyway? We all know how that goes…

  76. Will Says:

    Zapf on May 11, 2009 at 9:37 am said:

    This is like buying the last Pontiac Firebird. Tmobile must love all this rumormilling-who is going to buy a dead line of product?
    If TMobile has 2 more sidekicks on the Barbeque, it will not have the hiptop OS on it. It will have an Android OS on it. So take your choice:
    1) Buy a dead OS and product line
    2) or buy a device that will be a android-powered Sidekick by TMobile

    Remember, Sidekick is a brand. It can have any engine in it they want. It could be a Symbian phone for all they care.
    The PINK phone sounds like its never going to ship-and who wants a Microsoft product anyway? We all know how that goes…

    props for you. sidekick 08 will be my last for a while. c’mon G2! ;)

  77. azn Says:

    john nissan on May 11, 2009 at 12:51 am said:

    zman on May 9, 2009 at 9:26 pm said:

    They wont stop making sidekicks its just the danger team might be gone, its stupid to stop making them cuz they have will always have those people that will pay 400 plus for phone

    Really bro? You think? That’s like saying GM is going to keep making H2s after they gid rid of their hummer division this year.

    Anyone who is still getting this phone is die hard… the LX 08 is/was my last sidekick

    Just so you know, it’s the LX07, not LX08.

  78. TampaSKRecognize Says:

    So what..
    I’m STILL getting the LX09 with bells on my feet. What makes this situation any different from any-other year I upgraded to the latest SK anyway? If the next ‘Sidekick’ is Android based, so be-it. I’ll get that one too! That’s how Hard-Korr I am about the Sidekick. But until I SEE an android based Sidekick. Here’s my $199! Give me the most controversial Sidekick ever produced!

    HKSKinTPA

  79. azn Says:

    I won’t be getting the LX09, but in 2 or 3 years from now I’ll get whichever Sidekick is the latest. Until then, I’m sticking with my 08. Maybe the Sidekick line will improve by then.

  80. john nissan Says:

    Opp. Fine sidekick lx07.. Anycow, I havnt seen any real marketing for the 09lx.. Has any one? I mean when the lx07 came out, it had a dope website, it was in the hands of tons of celebs. Mark Cuban flashed it during the playoffs… its out, and no ads, just more rumors.

    And about the car comparision. Just cus you call it a charger, doesn’t make it the same as the charger of old days. Still not the same, but here’s hope to a android sk made by TMo…

  81. SUPERSONiiC Says:

    omqee my sidekick is beinq mailed to me on the 13th :) but you guys will be able to make your own ringtones its on the sidekick website?!

    :D

    I know on past Sidekicks, you haven’t allowed customers to add their own ring tones. Is this still the case?

    No, this has been opened up now. Customers can add their own ring tones in addition to those available in the download catalogue.

    Take me back to the Sidekick LX FAQ

    Discuss in our Sidekick LX forum

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  82. dirtygore Says:

    Zapf on May 11, 2009 at 9:37 am said:

    This is like buying the last Pontiac Firebird. Tmobile must love all this rumormilling-who is going to buy a dead line of product?
    If TMobile has 2 more sidekicks on the Barbeque, it will not have the hiptop OS on it. It will have an Android OS on it. So take your choice:
    1) Buy a dead OS and product line
    2) or buy a device that will be a android-powered Sidekick by TMobile

    Remember, Sidekick is a brand. It can have any engine in it they want. It could be a Symbian phone for all they care.
    The PINK phone sounds like its never going to ship-and who wants a Microsoft product anyway? We all know how that goes…

    it would have wm on it before android

  83. dirtygore Says:

    the mods at poweredby danger are a bunch of idiots. as soon as you say 1 thing bad about any sidekick they ban you. the poweredbydanger site is just to pro sidekick.

  84. Player Tee Says:

    I just got my new Sidekick LX09 today in the mail I’m so excited!

  85. SkInDaHause Says:

    Guess what! They don’t manufacture my outdated Mazda Protege DX anymore. Heck the newer Mazda 3′s don’t even have the SAME ENGINE! But I sure as heck still loves the way my car drives!

    Get it?

  86. crazyforkicks Says:

    Im on the new kick right now guys, you want first impressions?

    1. Its very hard to open the swivel!

    2. The trackball is super laggy!!!! WTF.

    3, ITS MAD LIGHT!

    4. the keys are easier to press! Font is cool too!

    5.The screen is a little wierd because its raised.

    6. Space bar doesn’t have enough response when you press it. Its almost like you didn’t press it at all.

    7.Speaker doesn’t really sound louder…

    No 3g in the south of boston/providence area

    Also I have a double unboxing video that I am about to post..!!!!

    Hope all of you get your kicks today…

    But don’t get your hopes up.. Its not all that..

  87. john nissan Says:

    The mazda 3 is a total upgrade from the prototege. Two tottaly differant cars. Its like calling the new g1 (G2) a sidekick, just cus its made by tmo, tmo owns the sidekick name…

  88. azn Says:

    SkInDaHause on May 11, 2009 at 3:04 pm said:

    Guess what! They don’t manufacture my outdated Mazda Protege DX anymore. Heck the newer Mazda 3′s don’t even have the SAME ENGINE! But I sure as heck still loves the way my car drives!

    Get it?

    Are you saying that you love your Sidekick 2?

  89. azn Says:

    crazyforkicks on May 11, 2009 at 3:35 pm said:

    Im on the new kick right now guys, you want first impressions?

    1. Its very hard to open the swivel!

    2. The trackball is super laggy!!!! WTF.

    3, ITS MAD LIGHT!

    4. the keys are easier to press! Font is cool too!

    5.The screen is a little wierd because its raised.

    6. Space bar doesn’t have enough response when you press it. Its almost like you didn’t press it at all.

    7.Speaker doesn’t really sound louder…

    No 3g in the south of boston/providence area

    Also I have a double unboxing video that I am about to post..!!!!

    Hope all of you get your kicks today…

    But don’t get your hopes up.. Its not all that..

    I agree with your last sentence. The LX09 isn’t all it’s hyped up to be… and people are willing to pay over $400 for it. Insanity.
    And the swivel is harder to open because the magnets are MUCH stronger.

  90. Crazyforkicks Says:

    Hey yall,

    I got my unboxing video up on youtube for both the orchid and the carbon,

    Make sure you watch the whole thing, because my lil homie had something to say to to jeremy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohbxA9WClZs

    It may be still processing. I wanna get 1,000 hits today!!!

    I gotta go make some ringtones!!! Peace!

  91. Setnakt Says:

    Quote Author: dirtygore
    Comment:
    “the mods at poweredby danger are a bunch of idiots. as soon as you say 1 thing bad about any sidekick they ban you. the poweredbydanger site is just to pro sidekick.”

    [Setnakt says] That’s not totally accurate. As I see it “Powered by Danger” forum is Appletec’s fan-club/”temple” for having his *** kissed, etc. It’s got little to do with Sidekicks, just Appletec. All they ever do over there is deny anything about new kicks, slam anything from this site (which I’ve found to be at least 90% accurate) which they say it’s “hardly ever accurate” (this site) a blatant lie to promote their own site and hide news and such here. They are a disinformation site for elitist snobs. I posted in DEFENSE of a Sidekick app (“Theme Arc,”) to some idiot who said basicly you can do all that on a computer. I said in this ecomony not everyone has both a computer and a Sidekick, this app is needed and useful for a lot of people. So Appleasstec came in and moderated ME, said I was “discourteous” (his, no real reason needed catch-all to ban/moderate people over anything or nothing if he gets a bug up his stupid ***). He told me on my personal messages there that “everyone has a Sidekick and computer, get with the program”. I replied that I was “supporting a Danger product, not PC’s or Apple’s, what’s the forum for, don’t you know who you work for?!?” well of course, you can’t question “god” (appledumbass) so he banned me and posted some “reply” to what I said TO MY BANNED ACCOUNT where nether I nor no one else could read it since I was banned! What an idiot! “Powered by Danger” = forum for Appletec’s little gimps, no thanks, no sale here, no freedom, justice, or even news there. Nothing to see worth the power trip games of the punk nerd in charge. If Microsoft is REALLY laying off Danger people, he needs to be at the top of that list! His agenda is himself first, last, and always, Danger and Sidekicks never unless it can be used to promote his ego.

  92. Captaindan Says:

    Ok guys,
    Take this however you want. I’ve been a TMO Business Customer since the SK2 and have upgraded everytime a new kick came out with a new 2 year agreement the day that the devices came out. This time was different, I was not allowed to purchase the LX09 during the presale, even for $400. I made over a dozen calles to customer service and TMO corporate and all I could get was “this device is directed more towards individuals rather than business customers”,”this presale is only for individual customers”. These were direct quotes. I work for a major market radio station and offered to do a story on the new SK09 and the culture behind the sidekick. I talked directly with TMO corporate marketing and the media reps, and after several conversations they finally offered me the new phone for the $400 dollar price with a new 2-year agreement. They said I wasn’t elligible for the discount because my contract wasn’t up yet, I had purchased the SK LX the day it came out and renewed my contract then. I started this process the day that the SK09 presale was offered and didn’t get my answer until May 8th. I decided not to buy the LX09 until my contract runs out for obvious reasons. Anyone have any idea why they were so hesitant to do any promotion, I was gonna to a real nice news piece and I was gonna buy the phone, not a freebie.

  93. android Says:
  94. shannon Says:

    If it is true, MS should at least do one thing – instead of leaving every hiptop/Sidekick owner with a brick, there should be a firmware update for every device which allows the device to use the internet etc like a normal phone – WITHOUT a Danger account linked to the phone.

    Sounds stupid, but if T-Mo (which in turn could lead to Telstra) get rid of the Sidekick plans, then what are you going to do?

  95. DR Says:

    I called T-Moble on 4/19 after finding out the 2009 was coming out to get in on the presale price. The customer service person said he could take my order over the phone.
    I was very exsited to get the 3G experience. He quoted me the same price as I had seen on this site. $200for the 2009 and I got a $50 upgrade rebate. I said sign me up.
    About a week later I got a sidekick in the mail and notised I was billed $300 and no rebate. So I called customer service to fine out why and got a run around. So I said the heck with it I’ll pay it.
    Last night I got on line to learn more about the feachers.
    And that’s when I found out I actualy got a 2008. The box,manuals,or the bill stated 2008 or 2009. So I paid $130 more for a 2008 than I would have paid for the 2009.
    I was told it was pass 14 days so I’m stuck with it. I thout they did the job .
    I have had 3 phones whith T-Moble going on 4yrs. The last 2 with all sidekicks.
    I’m very upset at the way this has gone.
    They didn’t send me what I ordered,charged me $130 more,and they are holding to the 2yr extention to even thow they didn’t keep there end of the agrement.
    US Cell was $30 more but I would get internet on all 3 phones insted of one.
    Has anyone else got plaid?
    On unemployment,2 kids,and now they charge me almost double for a phone a yr older,no 3G,and no vidio.
    Way 2 go t-moble !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  96. dirtygore Says:

    shannon on May 12, 2009 at 6:44 pm said:

    If it is true, MS should at least do one thing – instead of leaving every hiptop/Sidekick owner with a brick, there should be a firmware update for every device which allows the device to use the internet etc like a normal phone – WITHOUT a Danger account linked to the phone.

    Sounds stupid, but if T-Mo (which in turn could lead to Telstra) get rid of the Sidekick plans, then what are you going to do?

    you just cant add wifi with a firmware update. wifi has to be in the phone in the first place before it can be unlocked. and by the looks of things, they havent added it to the phone.
    the new sidekick could and should have been so much more but its not.

  97. Tina Turner Says:

    Tina Turner @ May 13th 2009 4:23PM

    Palo Alto, CA

    MSFT had a lovely launch event for the Sidekick 09 today. Complete with Taco Bell bean burritos, a singing clown and a rousing version of the Danger Inc. Corporate Anthem,”My Heart Will Go On.”
    The event was a success, with all 3 remaining sidekick developers and security detail for each. VP of PMX ,Roz Ho, was quite fetching in her Pink Chanel Blouse and sporting a well-deserved facial. “I hate doing layoffs.It’s the worst thing a manager is asked to do. But, Stevie B thanked me for killing the brand and gave me this gift certificate for a facial. He’s soooo nice!”
    It was a private event, with even recently-let-go sidekick developers not allowed access. “We thought those guys running around would take away from the good-natured fun,”said Ho. Family members were also not invited. “We thought it best to let people know that Microsoft is their new own…er…family,”Ho corrected herself.
    Former CEO Henry Nothaft, who was removed from his position by crowbar, was invited to celebrate the last Sidekick by Danger Inc. He was unable to attend due to illness in his horse stables.
    -Reuters

  98. shannon Says:

    dirtygore on May 13, 2009 at 3:15 am said:

    shannon on May 12, 2009 at 6:44 pm said:

    If it is true, MS should at least do one thing – instead of leaving every hiptop/Sidekick owner with a brick, there should be a firmware update for every device which allows the device to use the internet etc like a normal phone – WITHOUT a Danger account linked to the phone.

    Sounds stupid, but if T-Mo (which in turn could lead to Telstra) get rid of the Sidekick plans, then what are you going to do?

    you just cant add wifi with a firmware update. wifi has to be in the phone in the first place before it can be unlocked. and by the looks of things, they havent added it to the phone.
    the new sidekick could and should have been so much more but its not.

    I’m not talking about Wifi – rather to be able to use the phone unlocked without having Danger’s backend server in place meaning I can use the internet features on any network.

    Of course, that is if Danger really is in danger

  99. cocoablini Says:

    Anyone who wants vintage 2000-2002 Danger schwag here’s a site. It’s at cost. Not cheap but fun. Stuff I made for the gang before the acquisition.
    Enjoy your m3′s

    http://www.zazzle.com/cocoablini

  100. Vananchez Says:

    Microsoft killed the SK…….no app store..no real web browser….how are they going to go head to dead with google and apple…its a wrap…this is the last SK

  101. Setnakt Says:

    “No ‘real’ web-browser”….WTF!?!? Could you please define this?? This makes no sence, the SK has REAL internet web-browsing, not WAP and with javascript. Has had it before the iPhone, can view 90% of all REAL (www. not wap.) websites, so how is to not a “real” web-browser? This is disinformation and dishonest IMO

  102. azn Says:

    Vananchez on May 15, 2009 at 5:07 am said:

    Microsoft killed the SK…….no app store..no real web browser….how are they going to go head to dead with google and apple…its a wrap…this is the last SK

    I’s pretty sure Sidekick have a CATALOG that existed before Apple’s “app store”

  103. azn Says:

    Vananchez on May 15, 2009 at 5:07 am said:

    Microsoft killed the SK…….no app store..no real web browser….how are they going to go head to dead with google and apple…its a wrap…this is the last SK

    I’m pretty sure Sidekicks have a CATALOG that existed before Apple’s “app store”

  104. dirtygore Says:

    Setnakt on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 am said:

    “No ‘real’ web-browser”….WTF!?!? Could you please define this?? This makes no sence, the SK has REAL internet web-browsing, not WAP and with javascript. Has had it before the iPhone, can view 90% of all REAL (www. not wap.) websites, so how is to not a “real” web-browser? This is disinformation and dishonest IMO

    but it doesnt have flash so it doesnt show flash on pages. so no it doesnt have a real web browser.

  105. Setnakt Says:

    [ dirtygore said]:

    May 17th, 2009 at 3:58 am [ Quote ]

    { Setnakt on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 am said:

    “No ‘real’ web-browser”….WTF!?!? Could you please define this?? This makes no sence, the SK has REAL internet web-browsing, not WAP and with javascript. Has had it before the iPhone, can view 90% of all REAL (www. not wap.) websites, so how is to not a “real” web-browser? This is disinformation and dishonest IMO}

    but it doesnt have flash so it doesnt show flash on pages. so no it doesnt have a real web browser.

    [Setnakt says now]

    Lol, your a lunitac, NO smart phone has that. So according to your twisted “logic” NO smart phone has a “real” web browser! As if fash was the “real” internet, lol give me a break. Flash is not the defination of “real internet”, so like I said, you lied.

  106. dirtygore Says:

    Setnakt on May 17, 2009 at 9:27 am said:

    [ dirtygore said]:

    May 17th, 2009 at 3:58 am [ Quote ]

    { Setnakt on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 am said:

    “No ‘real’ web-browser”….WTF!?!? Could you please define this?? This makes no sence, the SK has REAL internet web-browsing, not WAP and with javascript. Has had it before the iPhone, can view 90% of all REAL (www. not wap.) websites, so how is to not a “real” web-browser? This is disinformation and dishonest IMO}

    but it doesnt have flash so it doesnt show flash on pages. so no it doesnt have a real web browser.

    [Setnakt says now]

    Lol, your a lunitac, NO smart phone has that. So according to your twisted “logic” NO smart phone has a “real” web browser! As if fash was the “real” internet, lol give me a break. Flash is not the defination of “real internet”, so like I said, you lied.

    samsung, se and nokia have smart phones that have flash. the n95. n96 and n97 have flash for a start. they also have a lot more than what any sk has to offer. i mean the sk just got youtube. it cant even store full movies on it yet and the video player cant record at 30fps or record in hd. i dont think you know what flash is by reading your reply.

  107. azn Says:

    dirtygore on May 18, 2009 at 3:00 am said:

    Setnakt on May 17, 2009 at 9:27 am said:

    [ dirtygore said]:

    May 17th, 2009 at 3:58 am [ Quote ]

    { Setnakt on May 15, 2009 at 11:12 am said:

    “No ‘real’ web-browser”….WTF!?!? Could you please define this?? This makes no sence, the SK has REAL internet web-browsing, not WAP and with javascript. Has had it before the iPhone, can view 90% of all REAL (www. not wap.) websites, so how is to not a “real” web-browser? This is disinformation and dishonest IMO}

    but it doesnt have flash so it doesnt show flash on pages. so no it doesnt have a real web browser.

    [Setnakt says now]

    Lol, your a lunitac, NO smart phone has that. So according to your twisted “logic” NO smart phone has a “real” web browser! As if fash was the “real” internet, lol give me a break. Flash is not the defination of “real internet”, so like I said, you lied.

    samsung, se and nokia have smart phones that have flash. the n95. n96 and n97 have flash for a start. they also have a lot more than what any sk has to offer. i mean the sk just got youtube. it cant even store full movies on it yet and the video player cant record at 30fps or record in hd. i dont think you know what flash is by reading your reply.

    Flash from a camera?

  108. Setnakt Says:

    To “dirtyfore” (from last comment): no, it means I never heard of those obscure phones, I know what (internet) flash is (not the camera flash azn). I’m guessing those are Verizon phones since they got all that multi-media ****. Still it doesn’t change the fact Sidekicks DO have REAL internet, which is defined as viewing HTML/www (not WAP) web-pages and runing javascript which is what most internet sites require, most do not require flash. If most web-sites start requireing flash then flash will define “real” internet, not untell. So I was wrong about no phones haveing flash but you were equally wrong about what defines “real” internet. Your just bitching about a internet feature you wish it had, doesn’t mean it’s not “real” internet. What’s next, no Real Time Player means not “real” internet also?!? Come on! This is all like saying if a car doesn’t have fuel injection it’s not a “real” car, give me a break! Everyone is always drooling over the iPhone and everyone says it has “real” internet, does it run flash? Then you go on about the video player which has nothing to do with internet, seems to me your just here to down Sidekicks. Why don’t you just get one of those flash phones and leave Sidekick forums alone. I make no secret I hate iPhone, but you won’t see me on iPhone forums trolling around bitching how iPhone sucks.

  109. dirtygore Says:

    Setnakt on May 18, 2009 at 10:46 am said:

    To “dirtyfore” (from last comment): no, it means I never heard of those obscure phones, I know what (internet) flash is (not the camera flash azn). I’m guessing those are Verizon phones since they got all that multi-media ****. Still it doesn’t change the fact Sidekicks DO have REAL internet, which is defined as viewing HTML/www (not WAP) web-pages and runing javascript which is what most internet sites require, most do not require flash. If most web-sites start requireing flash then flash will define “real” internet, not untell. So I was wrong about no phones haveing flash but you were equally wrong about what defines “real” internet. Your just bitching about a internet feature you wish it had, doesn’t mean it’s not “real” internet. What’s next, no Real Time Player means not “real” internet also?!? Come on! This is all like saying if a car doesn’t have fuel injection it’s not a “real” car, give me a break! Everyone is always drooling over the iPhone and everyone says it has “real” internet, does it run flash? Then you go on about the video player which has nothing to do with internet, seems to me your just here to down Sidekicks. Why don’t you just get one of those flash phones and leave Sidekick forums alone. I make no secret I hate iPhone, but you won’t see me on iPhone forums trolling around bitching how iPhone sucks.

    are you serious. you have never heard of samsung, nokia or sony ericsson phones. there the 3 leading phone makers in the world. the n96 and n97 are the most advanced phones on the market at the moment. at the end of the day the sk is a **** phone. im sorry if you know nothing about phones. i mean come on. the sk has only just got a 3.5mp camera and be able to play youtube. the sk needs more than just a screen that flips and a qwerty keyboard. other phones have a qwerty keyboard thats just as good and there also touchscreen. i suggest you look up some phones from those companys and you will see what im talking about.

  110. Setnakt Says:

    Hey Dirtygore, I said those PARTICULAR phones you mentioned you JACKASS`not all samsung nokia etc phones, although only a complete idiot gimp ***** sucker would buy anything from the scam artest, everthing designed to break as fast as possiable hucksters at Sony. I tried to be polite with you but I see now that’s impossiable you asscllown, go **** your mamma punk. Oh and by the way onlly little *****-boys want touchscreen TOYS you chump troll

  111. Tina Turner Says:

    More employees leaving Danger/MSFT. Major engineering people too. Last Sidekick

  112. Mike Says:

    That’s what those LAZY idiots get.They wernt dedicated like you SK lovers to this phone.

    If you guys and gals only knew.

  113. Mike Says:

    Setnakt on May 12, 2009 at 11:14 am said:

    Quote Author: dirtygore
    Comment:
    “the mods at poweredby danger are a bunch of idiots. as soon as you say 1 thing bad about any sidekick they ban you. the poweredbydanger site is just to pro sidekick.”

    [Setnakt says] That’s not totally accurate. As I see it “Powered by Danger” forum is Appletec’s fan-club/”temple” for having his *** kissed, etc. It’s got little to do with Sidekicks, just Appletec. All they ever do over there is deny anything about new kicks, slam anything from this site (which I’ve found to be at least 90% accurate) which they say it’s “hardly ever accurate” (this site) a blatant lie to promote their own site and hide news and such here. They are a disinformation site for elitist snobs. I posted in DEFENSE of a Sidekick app (“Theme Arc,”) to some idiot who said basicly you can do all that on a computer. I said in this ecomony not everyone has both a computer and a Sidekick, this app is needed and useful for a lot of people. So Appleasstec came in and moderated ME, said I was “discourteous” (his, no real reason needed catch-all to ban/moderate people over anything or nothing if he gets a bug up his stupid ***). He told me on my personal messages there that “everyone has a Sidekick and computer, get with the program”. I replied that I was “supporting a Danger product, not PC’s or Apple’s, what’s the forum for, don’t you know who you work for?!?” well of course, you can’t question “god” (appledumbass) so he banned me and posted some “reply” to what I said TO MY BANNED ACCOUNT where nether I nor no one else could read it since I was banned! What an idiot! “Powered by Danger” = forum for Appletec’s little gimps, no thanks, no sale here, no freedom, justice, or even news there. Nothing to see worth the power trip games of the punk nerd in charge. If Microsoft is REALLY laying off Danger people, he needs to be at the top of that list! His agenda is himself first, last, and always, Danger and Sidekicks never unless it can be used to promote his ego.

    Comletely agree with you.If you only could read MOST people get banned for.Boycott poweredbydanger.com for obvious reasons.

  114. dirtygore Says:

    Setnakt on May 19, 2009 at 8:27 am said:

    Hey Dirtygore, I said those PARTICULAR phones you mentioned you JACKASS`not all samsung nokia etc phones, although only a complete idiot gimp ***** sucker would buy anything from the scam artest, everthing designed to break as fast as possiable hucksters at Sony. I tried to be polite with you but I see now that’s impossiable you asscllown, go **** your mamma punk. Oh and by the way onlly little *****-boys want touchscreen TOYS you chump troll

    i thought there might have been a chance to have an intelligent conversation with you but now i see that thats not going to happen. im still laughing that you have never heard of the n95, n96 0r n97. i guess your still living under a rock. its no wonder the sk never seems to advance that much with owners like you. well you just kep enjoying your new phone with 3yo tech.

  115. Setnakt Says:

    And I’m still laughing at the fact you think “intellegent” means being so damn stupid as to misinturpert every other thing somone else says, yet regardless of how obviously ignorant a troll that shows you to be, you have the gall to call others “ignorant” for not being a loser geek like yourself who studies the most obscure and unhead of phones all day long (no life). News flash to moron; MOST people haven’t heard of that junk you refered to! No one in my entire office has, oh but that’s right I work in a serious business office not at geek squad central. Besides I prefer the r2d5 with hollographic display, the c3pw with virtual reality internet (the only REAL internet) or the Sidekick 3000 Xtreme with star trek phasers and kick to kick matter transporters (loser). Still can’t get over the fact you were WRONG on your origional statement about what is and isn’t “real” internet huh assclown? FAIL AND PATHATIC.

  116. dirtygore Says:

    Setnakt on May 20, 2009 at 10:04 am said:

    And I’m still laughing at the fact you think “intellegent” means being so damn stupid as to misinturpert every other thing somone else says, yet regardless of how obviously ignorant a troll that shows you to be, you have the gall to call others “ignorant” for not being a loser geek like yourself who studies the most obscure and unhead of phones all day long (no life). News flash to moron; MOST people haven’t heard of that junk you refered to! No one in my entire office has, oh but that’s right I work in a serious business office not at geek squad central. Besides I prefer the r2d5 with hollographic display, the c3pw with virtual reality internet (the only REAL internet) or the Sidekick 3000 Xtreme with star trek phasers and kick to kick matter transporters (loser). Still can’t get over the fact you were WRONG on your origional statement about what is and isn’t “real” internet huh assclown? FAIL AND PATHATIC.

    obscure and unheard of phones? i guess you would know all about that seeing as you do own a sk. those nokia phones are the highest selling phones in the world at the moment.
    so you work in an office but you write and insult people like a child.
    i think you should grow up and get your head out your ***.

  117. Setnakt Says:

    I talk to children losers like you like the vermin scum they/you are. And what you never heard of the Sorney Erica Christiansen r2d5? Or the Son-of-Samsung cp3w? The Pinokia Sidekick 3000 Xreme? Damn, you are a loser. And again the topic what is real internet, on that: MASSIVE EPIC FAIL on your part. Changing the topic doesn’t work with me troll. If this is the best you got…, well that’s pretty damn sad ****, lol.

  118. dirtygore Says:

    Setnakt on May 20, 2009 at 5:26 pm said:

    I talk to children losers like you like the vermin scum they/you are. And what you never heard of the Sorney Erica Christiansen r2d5? Or the Son-of-Samsung cp3w? The Pinokia Sidekick 3000 Xreme? Damn, you are a loser. And again the topic what is real internet, on that: MASSIVE EPIC FAIL on your part. Changing the topic doesn’t work with me troll. If this is the best you got…, well that’s pretty damn sad ****, lol.

    wow you really are a child. oh and if you really do want to get back on topic then no the sk does not have a real web browser. there are sites on the net that i cant fully see on a sk. yet i can see them on a n96. because that does have a real web browser. if you dont know what a real web browser is then go compare the sk browser to a browser on a desktop or laptop. then come back and try and tell me that a sk has a real browser. you ignorant child.

  119. Setnakt Says:

    Hey Dumbshit”gore”, the definition of a child is exactly what you have displayed here is enough volume to make it beyond doubt. #1 you can never admit when you are wrong, even when others can and even when it’s in absolutely no dispute (the SK DOES have real internet numb nuts~keep saying it doesn’t like a 3 year-old changes nothing, only proves you are a total fool). #2, your too damn stupid to know basic things like what real internet actually is ( I guess “real” cars all must have MP3 players by your “logic”. #3 your too immature to stay on topic. #4 your too much a child to take a joke. #5 you too dumb to know when to shut your monkey-*** up and go home, it’s over (you lost). And #6 your a childish troll on the wrong list. That’s SIX strikes, your OUT (TWICE). More FAIL. Please keep it up and keep showing us all what a moron you are. I’m done, case closed/my point long proven, I’m tired of your DUMBass. Go play with your own demographic (the other punk kids). Your nothing but a broken record repeat of a bad movie.

  120. dirtygore Says:

    i think i have proven you wrong. in no way have you proven that the sk has a real web browser. a real web browser can access all web site with no problems. plus it cant show flash on any sites. maybe you need to go look up the definition of what a real web browser is.
    i think you need to crawl back under your rock because this argument is over and i have in fact won.
    if you do reply to this then you have proven everything i have said to be correct and your just clutching at straws
    now go play in traffic like a good little child.

  121. Jen Says:

    Dude, who do you think your fooling?

  122. Jen Says:

    I like how your like “I think I’ve proven you wrong” and ****, ROTFLMFAO! Why cause you say so? I’ve been cracking up watching this, and got to say you’ve only proven like Setnakt said, your a child. Flash isn’t what real internet is you tool! This is getting old, why don’t you go play in another sandbox freak. “dirtygore” WTF is that supposed to mean anyways, LOL!

  123. dirtygore Says:

    Jen on May 20, 2009 at 10:41 pm said:

    I like how your like “I think I’ve proven you wrong” and ****, ROTFLMFAO! Why cause you say so? I’ve been cracking up watching this, and got to say you’ve only proven like Setnakt said, your a child. Flash isn’t what real internet is you tool! This is getting old, why don’t you go play in another sandbox freak. “dirtygore” WTF is that supposed to mean anyways, LOL!

    did i say that flash was what made a real web browser. ohhh. let me guess. your a friend of hers or the same person coming on here to make it look like im wrong. well like ive said already. go look up what a real web browser is and then get back to me.
    wow you people are idiots and im going to keep being right.
    now if you will excuse me. im going to go use a real web browser while you keep using your toy.

  124. Merv Says:

    real internet is what most people say it is and what most websites actually use. Most people say the iphone has real internet, it has no flash. And most website don’t use flash ether. So obviously real internet isn’t flash. Can we move on now? Is that ok Mr proven nothin but acting like a baby??

  125. Jen Says:

    Wow you are a baby and a troll! If anyone disagrees with you straight to flames and crazy conspiracy ****! Everyone is wrong but you, whatever! I’m not playing your game, I’m unsubbing this thread you can have it like a good little troll. Isn’t anyone else tired of this troll loser?

  126. dirtygore Says:

    yeah but the iphone is **** but its browser is better than the 1 on the sk. im not saying that real internet just uses flash. there are loads of sites the sk can not access because of the web browser on it. its obvious that im just arguing with sk fanboys and girls that think that the sk is the best phone on the market. im just saying that the web browser on it isnt real internet like you would use on a desktop or laptop. where as phones like the n96 and n97 do use a real internet browser. and for your information. most internet sites do use flash in some way. oh and if im acting like a baby then the others must be acting like a fetus.
    no offence but are you people american

  127. dirtygore Says:

    i try to access my bank account on my sk and guess what. i cant do it. i thought i was told that it had a REAL web browser. i tried to watch a show on justin.tv on it but guess what, i couldnt. thought it had a real browser on it. so many sites i cant access because of the browser. lucky i have a real phone as well (n96)
    enjoy your toy kids.
    oh and as far as calling me a troll. i think you have proven to me how old you really are with childish pathetic comments like that.

  128. Mike Says:

    I know exactly what your talking about.The most basic,easy thing is this.I can’t reply are make a thread on a specific forum(catfish1.com).Now that I have a REAL web browser(actually 3 steel,opera and the standard wed browser).I can reply to threads and even post pics.Couldn’t do that with my lx on THAT website.

  129. j Says:

    Jeremy on May 7, 2009 at 5:05 pm said:

    LStrike on May 7, 2009 at 4:38 pm said:

    azn on May 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm said:

    I doubt this is true. For one, “Aenar” lacks his sources. Besides, the Sidekick line is one of T-Mobile’s most popular devices, if not THE most popular. Microsoft was probably just laying off some workers due to the current economy, not because they wanted to banish Sidekicks. If anything, this “PINK” might be the next ‘Kick…?

    I know overall the Sidekick may be one of TMobile’s top selling devices over the course of time. That being said I wonder if the G1 with 1 Million sales in a relatively short period of time doesn’t surpass any one Sidekick for the same period of time?

    The way Android is shaping up (and if you have not experienced Android 1.5 or Cupcake as it is better known as then do not comment) there could be a change as to most popular TMobile phone.

    The thing is the Sidekick is that TMobile exclusive that you can’t get anywhere else. Android will be on every carriers networks within the next couple of years.

    It will be a sad day if the Danger OS and Sidekick device goes away. Regardless of what you all are saying here VERY few of the folks posting here have even touched an SK LX 09 so I don’t understand how you feel it is rushed or half baked? The editors at Engadget loved it and they tend to have a pretty strong Apple bias they would destroy the Sidekick with extreme prejudice if it had been as you say half baked or felt rushed.

    I have spent the past 17 hours playing with my 09 LX and thus far love it and hands down it is the best SK to date (as expected). I keep reading these posts about how it was rushed, it isnt ready, etc and I just dont get it.

    So far I’m very satisfied with my SK LX 2009. The only other SK I owned was the SK II, which until now was the best phone I ever owned and is the main reason I decided to get this new SK. Previously I had owned the LG Voyager Titanium and that phone absolutely sucks on so many levels that would take up too much space to post here…my SK II was a far superior phone in many ways. Based on my experience with SK II the SK LX 2009 works as expected and better…my only disappointment so far is the lack of apps in the DL catalog…my SK II had far more…I would’ve assumed that they would all have the same apps. IMO the only phones that top the SK all around (at least in the USA) are the iPhone and the G1…I’m talking all around such as features combined with ease of use combined with form factor and personalized settings, etc…not just feature vs. feature (which a lot of phones may top the SK) but when you put everything together the SK is an awesome device.

  130. j Says:

    If you can surf the web with it then it is a “real” browser even if it can’t do everything some other browsers can doesn’t make it any less “real”. That’s like saying a baby isn’t a real baby because it was born without a nose. By your logic old versions of so-called “real” browsers are no longer “real” because they can not render some web elements. Maybe you should say it’s not as good as a full Explorer/Firefox/Chrome/whatever browser that you can download on your desktop/laptop and some mobile devices. I understand what is meant by saying it is “not real”, I get that but you are arguing semantics and semantically it is “real” whether it’s “real” in the slang sense or not. Even a “fake” rapper is still a real rapper…just not a very good one.

  131. dirtygore Says:

    j on May 23, 2009 at 11:12 am said:

    If you can surf the web with it then it is a “real” browser even if it can’t do everything some other browsers can doesn’t make it any less “real”. That’s like saying a baby isn’t a real baby because it was born without a nose. By your logic old versions of so-called “real” browsers are no longer “real” because they can not render some web elements. Maybe you should say it’s not as good as a full Explorer/Firefox/Chrome/whatever browser that you can download on your desktop/laptop and some mobile devices. I understand what is meant by saying it is “not real”, I get that but you are arguing semantics and semantically it is “real” whether it’s “real” in the slang sense or not. Even a “fake” rapper is still a real rapper…just not a very good one.

    finally someone with some brains.
    what others where trying to argue was that the sk’s web browser was like a browser on a desktop. what i was trying to get into there thick heads that it was a basic browser.

  132. azn93 Says:

    basic browser is real browser.
    don’t feed the troll.
    Dirtygore has an ego.

  133. dirtygore Says:

    azn93 on May 23, 2009 at 6:57 pm said:

    basic browser is real browser.
    don’t feed the troll.
    Dirtygore has an ego.

    like you said its a “real’ browser but its a very basc browser that doesnt access most sites very well, if not at all. and its lacking in a lot of things to make it a REAL browser. do you understand what im saying or do i have to dumb it down a bit more.

  134. ken Says:

    maybe microsoft is planning to break the sidekick exclusivetivity away from t-mobile and offer it to verizon and at&t customers. i mean at&t and verizon make up about 70% of cell users in the US. if anything did kill sidekick it was its dependancy on tmbile for access.

  135. dirtygore Says:

    There are rumors going around that ms are planning on re-releasing the zune or something along those lines so maybe that may have something to do with it. and with the release of the nokia n97 (check out this video on that phone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6YcXoRDG0 ) you will see that it does everything the sk does and a whole lot more. maybe ms realize that the sk has some major competition now ad just doesnt cut it anymore.

  136. ken Says:

    The big flaw with the sk is that it is a phenomenal phone for people who want to do a lot of texting, pic messaging, and emailing but at the same time they have made it server exclusive for data so even though it can be unlocked to work for at&t u can only make/recieve calls and sms. I use the lx on at&t and love the phones keyboard more then any phone at&t has out. Also the trackball light is a godsend to let u know if u missed a call or text when ur sleeping. I just think ms should upgrade it to a true smartphone with windows mobile and give it a battery that will last more then it does now. I hate to see it go because there is so much potential for it. It basically built t-mobile up as far as young people going to it and many older people who just make calls and do sms texting love it too.

  137. Tina Turner Says:

    Microsoft just took away my developer SIM. They are taking all SIMs away from engineering staff. There you have it-the SK won;t even get an OS upgrade! ********

  138. DeizNutz Says:

    You all are fools to think that this so called “crises of sidekicks being exterminated” is true, The basic information is that this is a upgrade for connectivity and solutions for other problems with sidekicks, also another pitiful thing I can say is all these comments are gossip and have nothing to do with the conflict that is going on, so for those who want to argue against what I say I suggest you just let it go and wait for further information



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