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More Sidekick 2009 FCC Docs Leaked

Exploded Sidekick 2009 assembly diagram

Oops, looks like the FCC posted some docs they shouldn’t have!  Remember those FCC docs from Option N.V. that I posted awhile back?  Well it’s been confirmed that they were part of the new Sidekick.  The FCC has posted some additional documents today that confirm it’s part of the Sidekick 2009.  They even include some tasty illustrations of the assembly of a new Sidekick.  In addition there’s also info on the chipset they’re using, Qualcomm’s MSM7200A and/or MSM7201A.  These are the same chipsets that a bunch of recent phones run on including the G1, HTC Magic, and the upcoming HTC Touch Diamond2.  Looks like at least hardware wise MSDanger is going to drop a phone that competes directly with the new Android devices.  If you want the nitty gritty details straight from the FCC filings, here you go:

OS: Danger OS
CPU: QUALCOMM MSM7200A (MSM7201A)
Memory: 128MB SDRAM / 256MB NAND Flash
Input: QWERTY keyboard
RF: UMTS/HSDPA, GSM/GPRS/EDGE
Camera: 2M AF or 3M AF or 3M
I/F: µSD card slot x 1, microphone, speaker, Stereo headset port, USB port, A-GPS, Bluetooth
RF: UMTS/HSDPA Band I, Band IV, Band V GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900

The documents posted contain the photo up top as well as the following:

Sidekick 2009 Layered Communication Modeloptionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-2optionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-9optionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-11optionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-14optionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-17optionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-26optionnv-sk2009-externalphotos-27

There are a bunch of other computer generated images and photos of the radio for the Sidekick 2009 in the docs.  You can check out the FCC filing (FCC ID NCMOCU1407), or check out the cached PDFs below:

Integration Manual (contains breakdown of Sidekick 2009)

External Photos

Test Photos

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  • 127 Responses to “More Sidekick 2009 FCC Docs Leaked”

    1. meems Says:

      Im First! Sidekick O9 here we come!

    2. Nicole Says:

      Does this thing have a camera flash? If it doesn’t, I’ll stick with my 08.

    3. crazyforwhat? Says:

      It does have a camera flash.

      This isn’t a leaked file, or mistake. today is 4/13, the day that the option NV docs would be released from the confidentiality agreements. DUH…..

      If you read the request on the original filing it says it expires 4/13.

      So the illustration basically killed my dreams of a touch screen UI. No touchscreen.
      I was surprised by the super small battery… You may need to buy 5 of these to last through the day, and a desktop charger to keep charging them….

    4. admin Says:

      crazyforwhat? on April 13, 2009 at 3:30 pm said:

      It does have a camera flash.

      This isn’t a leaked file, or mistake. today is 4/13, the day that the option NV docs would be released from the confidentiality agreements. DUH…..

      If you read the request on the original filing it says it expires 4/13.

      So the illustration basically killed my dreams of a touch screen UI. No touchscreen.
      I was surprised by the super small battery… You may need to buy 5 of these to last through the day, and a desktop charger to keep charging them….

      The “leak” is the “Sharp confidential” documents that Option N.V. included and that the FCC published. I’m betting Option didn’t have permission to release them.

    5. BronxBebe4488 Says:

      I’m happy to see this looking better and better.I was planning on buying a Sammy Memoir,my mind started thinking and then the new Sidekick 09 rumors.I’ve been waiting for years for the Sidekick to finally be better than its bro’s and sis’s.Got mo money saved up and idc if people thinks it’s for kids but it’s for everyone,well this one sure isn’t gonna be like one.Plus,TMO’s data plan is way cheaper than the other companies especially if you’re a loyal customer.I even got a friend of mine to get excited for it and he’s a customer as well,lol..

    6. Mike B Says:

      Either way, we better not get into trouble or something.

      5 batteries for the SK 09 to last throughout the day? that’s tripping or what?

    7. Mike B Says:

      Oh hey, I heard that if an existing customer buys the SK09, the data plan will go up to $35.99 every month or something… is that true?

    8. crazyforiphones Says:

      My lx needs 2 batteries to get through a full day. One battery gets me 10 hours. With moderate usage. If I’m having a boring day, and I’m surfing the net , and taking a **** load of pics, and using the mp3 player, I get 5 hours.

      This new kick has 3G, which will hog all the power.
      Not to mention the better screen at full brightness.
      Power *****!!!

      And yeah mike. Most likely u will be paying 35 bucks when u upgrade and it will be a whole new level of data plan.

      Just like u can’t get tzones for $5.99 on a G1..

      For the extra $35. Might as well go iphone, Black berry, or G1/G2

    9. meme Says:

      I wish we could finally get every detail about this new sidekick without having to snoop around and luckily finding new things! What the heck?! Lol

    10. crazyforiphones Says:

      I look at it this way.
      If the plan remains at $20 for current customers will give it the 14 day test.

      If it goes up to $35, I’m prolly going to go with the next android, or wait till june for the new iphone and jump to at&t.

      Why pay $35 for sidekick unlimited data and text, and I still have to pay for ringtones, games and applications.

    11. Marcofromda510 Says:

      “RF: UMTS/HSDPA, GSM/GPRS/EDGE”

      Does this mean it won’t be running on 3G?

    12. crazyforiphones Says:

      UMTS/HSDPA = 3g

      3G just means 3rd generation of cell tech

    13. Marcofromda510 Says:

      Thanks, so things r heating up for the new kick. Had to call tmobile a lot lately(data issues) n asked a few people bout the new sk. All gave me the company line, ” I haven’t heard anything about a new sidekick coming out…” guess we’ll find out in a month.

    14. crazyforiphones Says:

      We should have an official announcement next week.

      I’m dying to see the turnout. I think they will see a lot of people leaving the kick.

      Its 2009, every phone should have an app store with free and pay apps. And free ringtones. I can remember 7 years ago when I could make my own rintones and install them. Get with the f’n times!!

    15. InterestedintheSK2009 Says:

      wondering if we could have a side by side spec sheet between the LX and the SK2009 soon. For the lazy ones (me :-P ) Thanks for the great site. It’s a good Sidekick resource

    16. crazyforiphones Says:

      I would make one, but I’m too busy watching the wolverine movie, thanks internet!

    17. dvd Says:

      one thing i dont get:
      if you go to the “integration manual” link, on the last page of the pdf it says “The antenna(s) used for this transmitter must be installed to provide a seperation distance of at least 20 cm from all persons” so hows that gona work on a phone?

    18. Koloheboy Says:

      30 more daysssss baybeeeee lol

      thanks hiphop3

    19. silversidekick Says:

      Well something else that looks rather interesting is the fact that there is a mood led guide, leaving the possibility of moodlights or a type of alerting leds for the device. not necessarily blue, but leds that have some sort of alert function. Moodlights will live on in 5.0!

    20. j Says:

      its april 13.
      one more month guys!

    21. king_gambit Says:

      CHESHIRE CHESS CHALLENGE COME BACK FOR SK09!?!?

      I HOPE!!!!

    22. bunny22 Says:

      Well I finally went and did it…I got the G1 after tons of consideration. Been with the sidekick family only since the SKII. My only reasons for finally jumping ship is the new rate plan. Although my data was 20 buckaroos, I believe it will not be grand-fathered for the new kick…so I just felt like I might as well get another phone that has free apps. Honestly it was a tough decision but I am very satisfied with my G1 and I am not a “fangirl” for the G1 or anything it was just logic that made me take the plunge. I still believe the Sidekick’s Download catalog will essentially be the same and I just personally kinda got sick of it.

      This new kick sounds awesome I will surely be at a T-mobile store to check it out.

    23. rz Says:

      Man y don’t they just make the SK09 do everything. Its been around 4evr and all us diehards desrvr the best upgrade available…and current users shudnt have 2 pay additional plan fees….

    24. JacksonJawbreaker Says:

      If you look at the old in the wild pics there is a little off color bar on the screen and I bet that it has to do with the “LED mood guide” thing. I’m excited. =D
      Buying this the first day most likely.

    25. silversidekick Says:

      JacksonJawbreaker on April 13, 2009 at 8:31 pm said:

      If you look at the old in the wild pics there is a little off color bar on the screen and I bet that it has to do with the “LED mood guide” thing. I’m excited. =D
      Buying this the first day most likely.

      Nice find! I think you could be on the money about that… indicator light(s) or moodlights? We’ll have to wait and see…

    26. nonbeliever Says:

      bunny22 on April 13, 2009 at 8:03 pm said:

      Well I finally went and did it…I got the G1 after tons of consideration. Been with the sidekick family only since the SKII. My only reasons for finally jumping ship is the new rate plan. Although my data was 20 buckaroos, I believe it will not be grand-fathered for the new kick…so I just felt like I might as well get another phone that has free apps. Honestly it was a tough decision but I am very satisfied with my G1 and I am not a “fangirl” for the G1 or anything it was just logic that made me take the plunge. I still believe the Sidekick’s Download catalog will essentially be the same and I just personally kinda got sick of it.

      This new kick sounds awesome I will surely be at a T-mobile store to check it out.

      crazyforiphones on April 13, 2009 at 4:40 pm said:

      I look at it this way.
      If the plan remains at $20 for current customers will give it the 14 day test.

      If it goes up to $35, I’m prolly going to go with the next android, or wait till june for the new iphone and jump to at&t.

      Why pay $35 for sidekick unlimited data and text, and I still have to pay for ringtones, games and applications.

      crazyforiphones on April 13, 2009 at 4:13 pm said:

      My lx needs 2 batteries to get through a full day. One battery gets me 10 hours. With moderate usage. If I’m having a boring day, and I’m surfing the net , and taking a **** load of pics, and using the mp3 player, I get 5 hours.

      This new kick has 3G, which will hog all the power.
      Not to mention the better screen at full brightness.
      Power *****!!!

      And yeah mike. Most likely u will be paying 35 bucks when u upgrade and it will be a whole new level of data plan.

      Just like u can’t get tzones for $5.99 on a G1..

      For the extra $35. Might as well go iphone, Black berry, or G1/G2

      If your currently paying $20 for data and switch to the new sidekick you won’t be put on the new $35 data plan. Your plan carries over. I’m not sure why they started charging more but my guess would because of their new 3g frequency.

    27. gizmo Says:

      ok ok ok so now we have some news worth reading!!! thats what im talkijng about. now i want to know if they will make me pay that 35 dollar price. i really dont want to pay that. im already paying the 20 and im ok with that. if they want me to pay more and get less than im going to be real upset. the 20 bux is one of the reasons i been focking out with my kick for so long. this thing will be a really good phone and i dont want to kick my kick for a g1/g2 because i love my kick. damn. choices choices. what will i do?? lol. i will give it a go and if i dont like it i will can it on ebay and fock out with a g1 or a g2.

    28. Sarah Says:

      bunny22 on April 13, 2009 at 8:03 pm said:

      Well I finally went and did it…I got the G1 after tons of consideration. Been with the sidekick family only since the SKII. My only reasons for finally jumping ship is the new rate plan. Although my data was 20 buckaroos, I believe it will not be grand-fathered for the new kick…so I just felt like I might as well get another phone that has free apps. Honestly it was a tough decision but I am very satisfied with my G1 and I am not a “fangirl” for the G1 or anything it was just logic that made me take the plunge. I still believe the Sidekick’s Download catalog will essentially be the same and I just personally kinda got sick of it.

      This new kick sounds awesome I will surely be at a T-mobile store to check it out.

      You couldn’t hold out a month to see if you would like the new sidekick or to see what would happen to the the data plans? Im not saying your wrong just that I would of waited the extra 30days just to make sure I was making the right decision.

    29. Nicole Says:

      The LXes are already off the TMobile site… all that’s left is the Tony Hawk LX and the SK08

    30. DieselBT Says:

      Honestly, getting bumped to $35/mo isn’t that bad, since you’d be getting a full upgrade from EDGE to 3G. I think it’s pretty reasonable. I do, however, hope they start to wise up about the download catalog. There just isn’t enough variety these days, and the prices are a bit on the high side, especially with the monthly app fees.

      Even though I’m not much of an iPhone fan, I definitely think the app store is a good example of how big a catalog should/could be. (Not to say that I want that huge of a catalog… a lot of the App Store content is total ****)

      Just my two cents!

    31. DieselBT Says:

      Wow. I got censored for saying c-r-a-p. Impressive!

    32. Anonymous Says:

      If I’m paying 35 I want free rintones, and free apps,
      I want apps like shazam, and imob for free.

    33. hoopshype Says:

      The deciding factor for me is the data pla. If I’m grandfathered into 20 dollars a month ill definetly stay with the sidekick. However if I end up having to pay more which is completely understandable I will probably move onto a new device after 5 years of having a sidekick.

    34. alex Says:

      i’m also grandfathered into the 20 a month data plan. if that changes i’ll just be getting the samsung memior. i’ve been with t-mobile for 10 years now. i don’t think that they will raise the data plans for customers with the grandfather accounts

    35. bubba Says:

      When I upgraded to the unlimited voice plan I asked about future SK upgrades and they told me that as long as I stuck with SK my data plan would always be $20 FWIW

    36. gizmo Says:

      alex on April 14, 2009 at 8:35 am said:

      i’m also grandfathered into the 20 a month data plan. if that changes i’ll just be getting the samsung memior. i’ve been with t-mobile for 10 years now. i don’t think that they will raise the data plans for customers with the grandfather accounts

      i dont think so either but if they do than i imagine there will be alot of people that leave the kick. i may not leave the kick but i wont be happy about the price increase at all. :/

      tmobile should really take into consideration the fact that the kick was built on being different and thinking outside the box. does anybody know who manages the price plans for the kick?? lol. it doesnt really matter, its not like i can send him an email or write him a letter but it would be nice to have a name. i would google him just for my own amusement. i suppose i could prob do some online research but i was hoping that one of you tmobile buffs would know.

      and i have another question… this one may be a silly question but… if the fcc docs are leaked than doesnt that mean that microdanger has the right to file for legal action against the fcc??

      wouldnt that be totally messed up, because after danger sells to microsoft this breach of security happens and danger could have really used the money or they wouldnt have sold to microsoft in the first place. lol. i guess thats the price of being a sellout. lol.

      i know that was harsh but i dont know if i like the fact that danger became a part of microsoft. maybe its a good thing and maybe its a bad thing. but if its a bad thing than i want danger to squirm a little for doing it and not holding up a good product for us diehard kickers…

      ok and one more thing, while im on a rant, im really really glad that they decided to continue to go with sharp instead of changing to another manufacture for the kick. sharp makes some pretty good stuff but i think they dont get the credit they deserve. the slide is a total waste of a phone. it had problems when it launched and it doesnt feel like a sidekick. the whole purpose of a sidekick is to have a great keyboard (the slide does not) and to swivel out (another thing the slide does not do) and to be comfortable in the users hand. forget motorola. they are totally h-0-m-0 and you can tell them i said it.

      im out!

      GIZMO(s) and GADGET(s)

    37. crazy for what Says:

      I’m so with you, for $35 I’m going g1 or blackberry, or just jump ship to the iphone.

      But they would have to address the issue with battery life on the new iphone.

    38. crazyforwhat Says:

      Dude, nothing was leaked.

      Fcc legally has to make these documents available after the confidentiality period is over.

      The period is set in place so other manufacturers don’t try to steal the concept and compete against the filing company.

      It is our rights as americans to know what type of radiation is being emitted from the device, that’s why the fcc acts as the regulatory body.

      Without set limits, people would be dying of cancer and suing the companies.

      Also fcc regulated wha frequencies companies use, so as not to interfere with other things like aircraft, and military operartions.

      Anyway, I got a feeling this kick is gonna suck a$$.

      Especially for over $300

    39. Chris Says:

      “The antenna(s) used for this transmitter must be installed to provide a separation distance of at least 20 cm from all the persons and must not be co-located or operating in conjunction with any other antenna or transmitter.”

      I’m hoping to see how this will be addressed…or else we’re gonna have portable cancer pods everywhere.

    40. meme Says:

      crazyforwhat on April 14, 2009 at 9:26 am said:

      Dude, nothing was leaked.

      Fcc legally has to make these documents available after the confidentiality period is over.

      The period is set in place so other manufacturers don’t try to steal the concept and compete against the filing company.

      It is our rights as americans to know what type of radiation is being emitted from the device, that’s why the fcc acts as the regulatory body.

      Without set limits, people would be dying of cancer and suing the companies.

      Also fcc regulated wha frequencies companies use, so as not to interfere with other things like aircraft, and military operartions.

      Anyway, I got a feeling this kick is gonna suck a$$.

      Especially for over $300

      You keep talking. You said you were going with the iPhone like a month or two ago. Leave already! Stop complaining about how you dislike the sidekick because it doesn’t do what you want it to!

    41. Steph Says:

      You’re all really that bothered about a $15 price increase? Considering how much you’re paying for the phone I wouldn’t think money is such a huge issue.

      It’s like an extra 50c a day. I bet if you put that aside from the change you get everyday you wouldn’t even notice the difference.

    42. crazyforwhat Says:

      Shut the F up!

      I still own and use my LX daily.

      I’m weighing my options for a future handset.
      If the new kick falls below my standard I will move on. It is my right as an american to express my thoughts. So you can kiss my a$$.

      If the new kick sux I still have to use my LX until the new android comes out, or the new iphone.

      I will be on here until then, pissing you off.

    43. meme Says:

      Steph on April 14, 2009 at 11:02 am said:

      You’re all really that bothered about a $15 price increase? Considering how much you’re paying for the phone I wouldn’t think money is such a huge issue.

      It’s like an extra 50c a day. I bet if you put that aside from the change you get everyday you wouldn’t even notice the difference.

      I think the real problem is that additional $15 amounts to $180 MORE a year. I can you I can find at least 180 more ways I’d like to spend that $180 dollars. Comprendas?

    44. bunny22 Says:

      Sarah on April 14, 2009 at 1:08 am said:

      bunny22 on April 13, 2009 at 8:03 pm said:

      Well I finally went and did it…I got the G1 after tons of consideration. Been with the sidekick family only since the SKII. My only reasons for finally jumping ship is the new rate plan. Although my data was 20 buckaroos, I believe it will not be grand-fathered for the new kick…so I just felt like I might as well get another phone that has free apps. Honestly it was a tough decision but I am very satisfied with my G1 and I am not a “fangirl” for the G1 or anything it was just logic that made me take the plunge. I still believe the Sidekick’s Download catalog will essentially be the same and I just personally kinda got sick of it.

      This new kick sounds awesome I will surely be at a T-mobile store to check it out.

      You couldn’t hold out a month to see if you would like the new sidekick or to see what would happen to the the data plans? Im not saying your wrong just that I would of waited the extra 30days just to make sure I was making the right decision.

      Actually it was just it wasn’t about waiting the 30 days, my sidekick got really crappy reception in my apartment…like it would drops calls like way too much..since having my G1 I haven’t had one dropped call. I will check out the new Sidekick when it drops but more than likely I can honestly say I am more than satisfied with my G1. It is just a Sidekick on steriods IMO.

    45. Tico NYC Says:

      FAct I dont think that they will release a new data plan for 3g sidekick. I think they made it higher to deal with the new 3g network. So 35 a month will be the 4g network.
      Now hopefully if 35 is 3g then 20 a moth will be 2g
      and we will be able to use the new sidekick 09 with a slower connection. atleast this sounds like they not loosing there customers and maintaining there fast connection with new customers and new buyers. sounds like this could be the plan to me
      well I hope so I wouldent mind the slow connection for new sk09 and 20Amoth.
      Im hopping soo hard for this!..

      AND PEOPLE WAIT! aside from the 09 they will be releasing 2 more sidekicks this year!!! so we will have to wait to seee whats up with that!!!

    46. Tico NYC Says:

      typeO 4g I ment 3g
      basically who ever has 20 dollars a month will stay with the slow connection even though they got the new sk09 untill they decied to get a 35 amoth plan

    47. bunny22 Says:

      bubba on April 14, 2009 at 9:17 am said:

      When I upgraded to the unlimited voice plan I asked about future SK upgrades and they told me that as long as I stuck with SK my data plan would always be $20 FWIW

      Well I heard obviously something different. Also they are starting up the $18 for upgrade fees again…you know what that means? They are getting ready for the slew of people who are going to be purchasing the Sidekicks…I say its perfect timing for T-mobile to start charging again…hmmmm lol seems like more than a coincidence lol.

      I wanna call customer care and ask but it’s like you would get a different answer from different reps. I wish someone knew 100% about the new rate plan for the new kick whether or not older customers will be grand- fathered into their old rate plan. No one really knows for sure or at least I haven’t come across anyone who has.

    48. crazyforwhat Says:

      What do you think about the sh*tty battery life. When I tested the G1 for 14 days I got 5 hours max on battery, with wifi, and gps off.

      Concerning data plans, there is no 4G in the works for tmobile.

      And it makes perfect sense, you will have to upgrade to a 3g data plan, just like you can’t get tzones on a G1 or on a blackberry

    49. crazyforwhat Says:

      15 bucks is 15 bucks.
      Why pay an extra 15, when u can pay the extra 15 for the g1, and have free rintones, apps, and games!!

      And no stupid monthly application fees for things like myspace and photobucket.

      I see many kickers moving away from the kick

    50. bunny22 Says:

      crazyforwhat on April 14, 2009 at 4:05 pm said:

      What do you think about the sh*tty battery life. When I tested the G1 for 14 days I got 5 hours max on battery, with wifi, and gps off.

      Concerning data plans, there is no 4G in the works for tmobile.

      And it makes perfect sense, you will have to upgrade to a 3g data plan, just like you can’t get tzones on a G1 or on a blackberry

      Well Honestly at 1st it sucked but like training the battery I must say actually worked. This was the 1st time I saw that written in a MANUAL….it was strange because usually people tell you to “train your battery” but to read it in my G1 manual was kinda funny lol. It does really work. I get up and I am out of the house by 5am…home around 2pm and I have about half battery life. I text and email a lot through out the day for work.

      Also another thing that I noticed was that when my G1 started loosing battery life I still had hella juice left. It shows you that you don’t but you really do…with the sidekick the exclamation marks comes on and you have to run to the charger lol…with my G1 you have about 40 mins or so with straight usage.

    51. bunny22 Says:

      I do carry my usb charger with me but I only charge it when my battery is like dead.

    52. gizmo Says:

      Tico NYC on April 14, 2009 at 4:01 pm said:

      FAct I dont think that they will release a new data plan for 3g sidekick. I think they made it higher to deal with the new 3g network. So 35 a month will be the 4g network.
      Now hopefully if 35 is 3g then 20 a moth will be 2g
      and we will be able to use the new sidekick 09 with a slower connection. atleast this sounds like they not loosing there customers and maintaining there fast connection with new customers and new buyers. sounds like this could be the plan to me
      well I hope so I wouldent mind the slow connection for new sk09 and 20Amoth.
      Im hopping soo hard for this!..

      AND PEOPLE WAIT! aside from the 09 they will be releasing 2 more sidekicks this year!!! so we will have to wait to seee whats up with that!!!

      how you know about these other phones?? i have not seen that anywhere on this site. you have a link to check out??

      anybody else have word of other kicks coming out this year??

    53. dan Says:

      My wife and I have g1’s and we have the $10 unlimited family text. . . . So our data plan is the $25 g1 plan. . . . . I would think it would be the same for new users on a sidekick. . . .so I guess our data/text plans are only 30 each . . . . 5 bucks off doesn’t sound that good now that I think about it. . . . .damn you tmobile

    54. gizmo Says:

      Tico NYC on April 14, 2009 at 4:03 pm said:

      typeO 4g I ment 3g
      basically who ever has 20 dollars a month will stay with the slow connection even though they got the new sk09 untill they decied to get a 35 amoth plan

      how do you know that too?? i have the 20dollar plan. where is it written that the people that have the 20dollar plan will stay with the slow connection?? there has been a beef up in the data department. i dont think they will be selling phones that have edge for much longer. the demand for it will go down.

    55. joe Says:

      Tico NYC on April 14, 2009 at 4:03 pm said:

      typeO 4g I ment 3g
      basically who ever has 20 dollars a month will stay with the slow connection even though they got the new sk09 untill they decied to get a 35 amoth plan

      Shut the **** up you ******* idiot.

      If there’s 3G signal in the area the phone will automatically pick it up.

    56. Anonymous Says:

      Crazy, you have the right to voice your opinion but others have the right to be sick of it.

      You’re rude, arrogant and generally a d-o-u-c-h-e. But what’s worse is that you’re redundant and an all around buzz kill. WE GET IT, you’re moving on. But not all of us are. So please, kindly actually LEAVE already and don’t look back. You won’t be missed, sir!

    57. crazyforwhat Says:

      If you see someone at a restaurant, and you don’t like them, do you ask them to leave?. No… deal with it c*cksucka.

      This is america, land of the free.
      Get over yourself. This isn’t communist china.

      Your another example of the feminization of american youth.

    58. gizmo Says:

      joe on April 14, 2009 at 5:00 pm said:

      Tico NYC on April 14, 2009 at 4:03 pm said:

      typeO 4g I ment 3g
      basically who ever has 20 dollars a month will stay with the slow connection even though they got the new sk09 untill they decied to get a 35 amoth plan

      Shut the **** up you ******* idiot.

      If there’s 3G signal in the area the phone will automatically pick it up.

      wait a minute. so if the phone is picking it up that means i ge tto use it. and if im paying 20 bux a month for my plan than i get to keep paying 20 bux.

      if its true than its freaking SWEET!!

    59. Meme Says:

      crazyforwhat on April 14, 2009 at 6:41 pm said:

      If you see someone at a restaurant, and you don’t like them, do you ask them to leave?. No… deal with it c*cksucka.

      This is america, land of the free.
      Get over yourself. This isn’t communist china.

      Your another example of the feminization of american youth.

      LOL that was a terrible example. Even everyone in that restaurant dislikes you they would all gang up on you and pummel you to smitherines!

    60. Mike B Says:

      FOOD FIGHT!!! :-D

    61. Meme Says:

      Meme on April 14, 2009 at 6:46 pm said:

      crazyforwhat on April 14, 2009 at 6:41 pm said:

      If you see someone at a restaurant, and you don’t like them, do you ask them to leave?. No… deal with it c*cksucka.

      This is america, land of the free.
      Get over yourself. This isn’t communist china.

      Your another example of the feminization of american youth.

      LOL that was a terrible example. Even everyone in that restaurant dislikes you they would all gang up on you and pummel you to smitherines!

      By the way, do you like fishsticks?

    62. Anonymous Says:

      I agree! Awful example! If this is a restaurant, then you OBVIOUSLY don’t like the cuisine. So why do you keep comming back?! Stop harrassing the loyal patrons and leave us alone and let us dine in peace!

      Your rebuttle was a perfect example of who you are. An ignorant, witless, classless fool.

    63. crazyforwhat Says:

      This is how the KKK and Nazi movement started.

      Just because you don’t like someone, doesn’t give you the right to censor or remove them. Remember, I have been a sk user going on 8 years.

      I’m going nowhere bi*tches.

      And right now when you stack the sidekick against its competitors, its stinks like your attitude

    64. Anonymous Says:

      I don’t want you cencored. Or dead. Just to go away. And find a forum that suits your needs.

      I just can’t figure out what pleasure you get out of visiting this place and commenting. You offer nothing constructive or prodocutive nor do you bring joy to anyone. Your “loyalty” to the brand does not give you license to come here and rain on everyones parade. A happy sk user who has been with the device for a day is better than a bitter long time user like yourself.

      The ONLY stinky attitude here is YOURS. You’re whinny, pessimistic and foul. Everyone should start a pettition to have the Admin ban you. If you’re soooooooooo over Crazyforwhateverhisnameisthisweek raise your hand!

    65. crazyforwhat Says:

      What a pu$$y, do I bother you that bad that you wanna start a petiton. Did your parents not show you enough attention when you were a child.

      STFU you pansy.

      The sidekick is marketed to dumb people like you. Hahaha the year 2009 and your still paying for ringtones and apps that should be free!!!

    66. shante Says:

      He has a point, I’m jus saying my nana has free ringtones on her cell. And why are we paying 1.99 for myspace? It’s free.

      Cmon danger step up yo skills!

    67. Anonymous Says:

      Yet another example of your “brilliance”. You’re so classless and tactless that you have to make up baseless accusations and attack people with what you THINK are their weaknesses. You’re so obviously uneducated, the only way you can fathom conversing with someone is to attempt to mock them.

      Yes, its 2009 and last I checked you are using the same phone that I am! The only difference is that I am more than satisfied with my phone but you are not! Lord knows, if I hated something so much, I wouldn’t be using it every day! Yet you’re still using it! To me, that makes YOU the dumb one.

      Seriously Admin, find a way to get rid of this low life.

    68. crazyforwhat Says:

      I made a mistake in october 2007 by signing a 2 year contract when purchasing an LX. Back then it was decent. Now its just behind in the times.

      I can’t believe your crying to Ed to get rid of me.

      You are truly an example of a baby. Go cry to mommy. You silly kid. Whaaaaaa whaaaaa.

      You got anotherthing coming in life, you will encounter people like me a million times during your lifetime. You can’t cry to get rid of them either.

      Have fun.

    69. gizmo Says:

      i dont think they will kill the 3g capablities to the phopne just because we are paying 20bux a month. that would be real stupid. the more and more i think about it the less an d less worries about it i get. just because the damn sidekick is gettin an upgrade doesnt mean that they will cancel our data service just because we have an old price plan.

      GIZMO(S) and GADGET(S)

    70. gizmo Says:

      NOW THAT I HAVE CHANGED THE SUBJECT CAN WE MOVE ON?? PLEASE?? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PHONE I LIKE.

      i asked earlier about the fcc being open to legal action. its either option’s fault or the fault of the fcc. is either one of these companies/organizations prone to legal action for leaking information that was supposed to be confidential?

    71. crazyforwhat Says:

      I’m 99.9% sure that sharp/tmo team reviewed these doc before option submitted.

    72. Anonymous Says:

      Your ignorance shows with every word that you type. To assume my age or my experience in life is arrogant and closed minded. You always try to appear intelligent and/or in control by TRYING to make it personal. You know NOTHING of me. Lets just keep this on topic, its merely about your repulsive postings.

      Not everyone in this world must be a SK lover. That would be ridiculous. But to come here and have EVERY SINGLE one of your posts be negative is to the benifit of noone. Not even your own. Its just gotten out of hand and I doubt I’m the only one who feels that way.

      And shante, I’m glad your nana is cool enough to have free ringtones. But unfortunately, if you want a sk you need to pay for your ringtones. And as long as people pay for them, tmobile will keep charging. That’s just the way the cookie crumbles darling. As for free myspace? Go to the web broswer, type in “myspace.com” and poof, FREE myspace! Magical isn’t it?

    73. crazyforwhat Says:

      What a hypocrite!

      You say I’m negative and rude, while you just made fun of a young girl who was simply stating her opinion.

      Wow you are on a role. Maybe hiptop3.com should be managed by you. You would end up being the only one allowed to post a comment.

      Bwahahahhaaha.

    74. meme Says:

      Just ignore “crazyfor…”
      By the way, there is an even better way to go on myspace on your sidekick. Check out m.myspace.com

    75. crazyforwhat Says:

      Ignore me? I defended her.
      Anonymous made fun of her.

      He isn’t even man enough to post a name.

    76. Anonymous Says:

      My intention wasn’t to make fun of anyone. I’m sorry if it came out that way. A grandmother/nana who uses free ringtones is pretty cute and cool. That wasn’t supposed to be sarcastic. As far as the myspace issue, its gotten a bit tired. The 2 dollar application is an OPTION, NOT a mandate. If you can not afford it, use the FREE web browser. Its really a no brainer.

      And seriously Crazy? Who are you kidding? You’re really grasping for straws. Shante used slang. The last person who used slang was blasted by you. You berrated them, told them to speak English and then pretty much said they are everything that is wrong with the SK culture. And now all of a sudden you’re a hero? *rolls eyes*

      My name, age, ***, ethnic background, religion are irrelevant. Lately you change your name depending on your mood more often than the weather changes and look how far that’s gotten you.

      I’ve ignored him for too long Gizmo. Enough is enough. This is a SK forum and there’s no logical reason for us to have to put up with such scum when we are just here for a fun passion we all share. I wouldn’t go on to another forum and start talking smack about the topic at hand. That’s just not normal. Lets not make this something its not. Its merely about his repulsive attitude. Is it too much to ask him to act like someone that deserves respect? How much of a hinderance would it be for him to keep his snide remarks to a minumum?

      But Gizmo, if you want to get back on topic, I think Crazy is right. The NDA expired yesterday. I’m not sure what the June date that the Admin is talking about pertains to. I doubt any lawsuits are impending.

    77. 915rko Says:

      the data plan is already 35 bux for any new comer to the sidekick or if you cancel it and get it again. now 15 bux does make a difference and don’t forget the taxes either. they’re high too. I pay an extra 20 bucks on taxes.

    78. ens936 Says:

      I don’t think is $35 for unlimited data and sms unless ur adding it to your voice plan… its ******* $54.99!!! If they do end up charging me that.. **** it im sticking with my LX.. I currently pay $24.99 for unlimited data and sms no voice plan.. I know most of you pay 20 dollars lucky you.. Unfortunately I didn’t get the sidekick when it was around that price…

      http://www.hiptop3.com/archives/t-mobile-price-increase-on-sidekick-data-plans/

      For those wanting just Data and SMS:
      Unlimited Data with 400 SMS: $44.99
      Unlimited Data with unlimited SMS: $54.99

      For those adding the Sidekick Plan onto a Voice plan:
      Unlimited Data with 400 SMS: $24.99
      Unlimited Data with unlimited SMS: $34.99
      Unlimited Data only (if you have SMS via another plan): $24.99

    79. DMW2 Says:

      My main concern is viewing / editing Microsoft files. Will there be some sort of app that allows view PDF / Xcel / Word files? I also need to to EDIT Xcel and Word files on the go.

      If the new sk could accomplish these tasks, it will be a all around winner!

    80. crazyforwhat? Says:

      DMW2 on April 15, 2009 at 5:09 am said:

      My main concern is viewing / editing Microsoft files. Will there be some sort of app that allows view PDF / Xcel / Word files? I also need to to EDIT Xcel and Word files on the go.

      If the new sk could accomplish these tasks, it will be a all around winner!

      You can edit microsoft files right now.
      Buy the applcations in the catalog. I think they are like $5.99
      I bought a cheap excel viewer for the LX, but it sux!

      If you frequently work on spreadsheets, etc, I suggest you wait for the new tmo wing2 or the new dash. Supposedly running 6.5 windows mobile pro.

      Personally, I had the wing for a bit, and it was very prone to crashing. Hopefully they improve the wing2.

    81. meems Says:

      Crazy why don’t you just change phones if you don’t like the sidekick you may have signed a 2 year contract that doesn’t mean you have to keep the sidekick for 2 years.. Im sure there’s a phone you can use. Your always talkin about iphone get one unlocked.. I personally have 2 phones had a sidekick on one line since the original sidekick and another phone which I constantly change on the other line.. Hence I can keep the sidekick for the pros and use the other phone for the sidekicks cons.. And I mean I have a family plan pay 49.99 for 600 mins m2m free n&w and free myfaves so it aint much more than one line would be.. Currently I have the 8900 on my second line which kind of sucks well internet wise its a lot slower then the sidekick… but like I said I change that phone all the time..

    82. chanty Says:

      when do you think t-mobile is gonna advertising the 09 for the sk users?

      idk. it’s weird. but it makes sense. okay. new sk users go to the $35/unlimited plan. for why? [ sorry i'm such a hick ] for that you get a G1 w|better connection & better usage. okay. but now .. since the sk is supposedly coming w|3G — that’s why it makes sense!

      i was bugging out about people grabbing the 08 to pay $35. im like wtflip is t-mobile ripping them off for? the sk08 & under only came w|unlimited Sms not even picture messages, e-mail, IM & web browser. why the hell would they have the audacity [spellcheck?] to raise the price for such crappy service when you can get better service w|a G1 for the same price?

      idk. i’m grandfathered into the $20/month unlimited. i’d be upset if they raise mine to $35. i been w|t-mobile for 2 years already. you think they’d screw loyal customers over? i hope not. i’m just dying to see some advertising THEN i’d be a FULL believer. i’m just hoping right now.

    83. cnystrand Says:

      I don’t get your post are you trying to say the 08 and lx don’t get mms,(picture messaging),im,email and web. Cause I know on my sidekick lx the sidekick unlimited plan of $19.99 includes unlimited data.including everything you mentioned. The sk3 and below don’t have mms. Anywho $35 is not that much.

    84. crazyforiphone Says:

      meems on April 15, 2009 at 6:44 am said:

      Crazy why don’t you just change phones if you don’t like the sidekick you may have signed a 2 year contract that doesn’t mean you have to keep the sidekick for 2 years.. Im sure there’s a phone you can use. Your always talkin about iphone get one unlocked.. I personally have 2 phones had a sidekick on one line since the original sidekick and another phone which I constantly change on the other line.. Hence I can keep the sidekick for the pros and use the other phone for the sidekicks cons.. And I mean I have a family plan pay 49.99 for 600 mins m2m free n&w and free myfaves so it aint much more than one line would be.. Currently I have the 8900 on my second line which kind of sucks well internet wise its a lot slower then the sidekick… but like I said I change that phone all the time..

      I have 5 lines on my family plan. So I can’t add another line.

      A few of them are free from contracts , while some others are not.
      Plus there really isn’t anything I like right now.

      But now I have to get out of this phone. I will try the new kick next month, I’ll try it for 14 days. If it sux I’ll wait for g2. If that sux, then I might have to pay the termination fees, and move to another carrier.

      I’m the type of person that likes new technology. I waited so long for kicks to finally get bluetooth, and the sk3 got it very late.
      I have to have a 3G phone, with customizable everything, and large support for apps.

      I have been playing with my friends storm at work, and it is getting more and more apps everyday. And supposedly they are improving the keyboard and adding wifi in the next unit.

      And I have to have this by this summer.

      I’m sick of carrying around my ipod touch, and looking for wifi.

    85. crazyforwhat Says:

      $35 is a lot for a data plan.

      I pay $45 for broadband in my house.

      The point is that for $35 we should get free ringtones and applications.

      Everyother phone has those things

    86. meems Says:

      well i had an unlocked storm and I personally thought it was horrible but then again I didnt have that many programs on it! but im not much for touch screens there annoying to type with! As far as the 35 rate i think its ridiculous if they do try to force us to upgrade because its 3g Im gone.. They might try to just because its new and theyll think they can get away with it but Im not bitting! and i know its 25 without unlimited text and i also have unlimited text on my family plan but still Ill jump the danger ship!

    87. gizmo Says:

      we dont really have a problem in houston with wifi service. pretty much everywhere there are mass groups of people there is wifi. sometimes its in the resturants or shopping centers the library. its pretty much everywhere. it sux that you live in a place where wifi is hard to find dude.

      im not getting involved in this mess that all you people are in on. i came here to talk about the kick. i like the kick. its a nice phone. i want to know what others think and how others feel about the phone that i like. when i first got mine i didnt like it. i thought it was over rated. then i had to use it and i fell in love with it. now i have had more kicks than anybody i know. every time one comes out i go out and get it. if i cant get it in the colors that i want i customize it. i get the wal papers that i want. i work on my kicks all the time. i have 3 lx’s, 1 sk2, and 2 sk3’s. i have so many from having to replace them when i mess them up. my favorite one is the lx. its the best kick ever made. the browser is the best. the keyboard comes from the sk 2 which was the best one, the sound qualirty is a little better, the whose sidekick experience is just better with the lx. the sk3 was the same as the sk2 except it was shaped different and the keyboard was ****.

      now. how do you guys feel about the kick?? i want the new one. i will be keeping this kick thing going. i was thinking of dropping it all together and getting to know the iphone but i dont want to. i dont need it. i can just get a ipod touch and use it for the wifi and the mp3 player. it will save some battery life on my kick if i get an ipod touch for music instead of killing my kick when im in the car or when im shopping in the grocery store or for whatever reason i use my music player.

    88. bunny22 Says:

      Another thing I wanted to mention is that 3g is not that much faster IMO over Edge. Having the G1 I notice that it is good but don’t be surprised about 3g not being as fast as you think…wifi is ofcourse faster than all but seriously guys 3g isn’t THAT MUCH of a difference…and with T-mobile’s network it depends on your dead spots (I am in the San Francisco bay Area) also we all know as kick owners/users we always have outages… but paying $35/month is sort of expensive but at the end of the day you just gotta get your moneys worth so text, email, and surf the internet!

    89. ICON Says:

      I do agree with Chanty. People who recently (and who do until May 13th) bought a Sidekick 08 or LX are getting screwed by paying $35 for 3g capabilities they won’t be able to use.

      As for Tico NYC’s rant, I’m sorry, but none of it made sense. If we do not manage to get grandfathered in, they’re not going to somehow limit your the ‘Blade’ to using only a 2g/EDGE connection (to my knowledge, I could be wrong…). So, $35 or $20 (or $55 w/o voice plan), the Blade will have 3g depending on if your area is covered.

      As for the lovely argument Crazy and Anonymous had, I agree with both of you. Anonymous is correct in that we don’t need the constant negativity, but Crazy can comment as much as he wants, and he is correct that our beloved Sidekicks are usually (always) ‘behind the times’ when it comes to technology. HOWEVER, you could indeed be more “classy” by not using so much foul language, Crazy.

      Now, back to the ‘Blade’. The memory upgrade is a LOT better than the LX, but not to the level I was hoping. But I’ll wait til I get my grubby paws on it and give it a whirl. I am also worried about the battery, but as stated by someone somewhere before, newer processors are more energy efficient, so hopefully we won’t need 40 batteries to last through a day of moderate usage. Fingers crossed!

      Lastly, I will admit there is one phone that is peaking my interest (more memory, slightly bigger screen), but it’s not the iPhone or a ‘touch screen only’ phone because like most of you, I need a nice full qwerty keyboard to text at an accelerated rate.

      Ok, this is plenty long enough :)

    90. crazyforwhat Says:

      I hear ya, I will also give the new kick a 2 week test. There must be something they aren’t telling us.

      I hope to god that they free up the custom capabilities, and open up the catalog for free apps.

      The reason why G1 and iphone are doing so well is because of the app store.

      The good move they are doing is offering the new kick in the pink color. My girl is gonna beg me for it.

      I will say I love typing on the kick, I type sooooo fast. The G1 keyboard is not as responsive. And the keys are too flat.

      As for the battery power, hopefully the new netbsd integration will be less taxing on the processor, whihc by the way is the same qualcom chip as the g1…. giggedy giggedy.

      If microdanger is smart they will, open the customization options and revamp the app store, to that of the iphone and g1, Then and only then will I be happy to pay $35 a month, (but no reoccuring fees)

      Till then, I’m counting down the days to the 13th. In fact I already requested it off from work!!!!!!!!

      Team Carbon!!!!!!

      Please danger/tmo/micro/sharp, make me keep this kick!!!!!

    91. chanty Says:

      nope. the mms isn`t apart of the $20 unlimited plan. i mean i don`t mms a lot but i would wonder why they were charging me. i went from a 3 to an LX so when i had the 3 i couldn`t get mms so when i upgraded it was like okay did mms get added or not? but i didn`t pay mind cuz i don`t mms a lot. but recently i found on my bill that they were charging me so i called CC &. asked what was that about &. they said it wasn`t apart of my plan.

      but idk. i called once &. the lady said i did have it &. took it off my bill. 2 months later they started charging me again &. i called again &. another one said i never had it. so idk. i barely mms but it’s the principle, you know?

      but jeez they need to advertise it already ! i wanna see more leaked photos !

    92. chanty Says:

      cnystrand on April 15, 2009 at 10:17 am said:

      I don’t get your post are you trying to say the 08 and lx don’t get mms,(picture messaging),im,email and web. Cause I know on my sidekick lx the sidekick unlimited plan of $19.99 includes unlimited data.including everything you mentioned. The sk3 and below don’t have mms. Anywho $35 is not that much.

      psh. i read a previous post that it’s an extra $180/year. screw that. $20-$35 after 2 years? bite me. [ not directing to anyone. i see how defensive people are here ] but t-mobile could surprise the loyal customers. never know !

    93. crazyforiphone Says:

      Don’t worry about these guys, they are way too sensitive.

      Its pretty bad when people are afraid to speak their minds because of a few over sensitized girly-boys.

      I’m with ya tho, I don’t wanna pay an extra $15 bucks a month.
      But If they give us our money’s worth for the $35, then I’m cool with it.

      Are you going to use the 14 day trial and test it out?

      Are you going Carbon (black/silverish),
      or Orchid (pink/purpleish)

      I am excited to be able to set up Microsoft exchange on the new kick. hmmm. maybe they are making a kick for an adult crowd.

      That would be wicked smart. (as they say here in New England)

    94. chanty Says:

      crazyforiphone on April 15, 2009 at 2:17 pm said:

      Don’t worry about these guys, they are way too sensitive.

      Its pretty bad when people are afraid to speak their minds because of a few over sensitized girly-boys.

      I’m with ya tho, I don’t wanna pay an extra $15 bucks a month.
      But If they give us our money’s worth for the $35, then I’m cool with it.

      Are you going to use the 14 day trial and test it out?

      Are you going Carbon (black/silverish),
      or Orchid (pink/purpleish)

      I am excited to be able to set up Microsoft exchange on the new kick. hmmm. maybe they are making a kick for an adult crowd.

      That would be wicked smart. (as they say here in New England)

      oh i am definitely testing it out &. i am definitely going w|the carbon. idk i like simple colors. i`m not too crazy about pink &. stuff. &. i`m so damn sick of my LX. just looking at it makes me mad lol i jus want a new phone already ! i’ve had the LX since it came out. i only had my 3 for like 7 months lmao.

    95. crazyforwhat Says:

      I hear ya, I’m so sick of my LX too.
      I really hope they WOW us with this new one.

      I wasn’t too impressed with the free map aplication.
      I used it once and never touched it again.

    96. chanty Says:

      idk i`m good w|locations but it came in handy .. one time lol i also only used it once. but then again i live in rhode island &. we’re tiny as fcuk.

    97. crazyforwhat Says:

      Get the fcuk outta hear. I’m 5 minutes from providence.

      You going to the tea party?

    98. chanty Says:

      lmao wow irony. providence is an ugly *** city. lived her almost 19 damn years. but nah. i`m too lazy. work &. school makes me wanna stay at home when i finish for the day lol

    99. boogz Says:

      i think they took a lot of precautions to keep this one under wraps…there’s gotta be something big poppin.

      i dont see how they can justify raising the price on the data package for the same services…hopefully we will no longer be hindered by our inability to add OUR OWN ringtones and apps.

      they need to make the picture ID bigger too!

    100. dave Says:

      crazyforiphones on April 13, 2009 at 4:13 pm said:

      My lx needs 2 batteries to get through a full day. One battery gets me 10 hours. With moderate usage. If I’m having a boring day, and I’m surfing the net , and taking a **** load of pics, and using the mp3 player, I get 5 hours.

      This new kick has 3G, which will hog all the power.
      Not to mention the better screen at full brightness.
      Power *****!!!

      And yeah mike. Most likely u will be paying 35 bucks when u upgrade and it will be a whole new level of data plan.

      Just like u can’t get tzones for $5.99 on a G1..

      For the extra $35. Might as well go iphone, Black berry, or G1/G2

      well if u dont want to pay $35 for the internet dont upgrade. just buy out the phone.. thats what im going do . i may pay $400-500. that what i did for my sidekick 08.. i paid $400

    101. slidekick user Says:

      Chanty, I think they are cheating you out cause mms IS part of the $20 unlimited plan.
      I get mms just fine and I am not charged extra for any of them ever.
      The mms’ are tied to the data side, danger’s servers for internet and backup.

      That’s what I was told anyhow, there was a point a while back where I was not getting mms but i was getting texts just fine.

    102. crazyforwhat Says:

      Boogs,

      I agree with you, I think there is something big that they are holding back.

      Maybe with the introduction of netbsd(an open source code) we may be able to get free ringtones and apps. Keep your fingers crossed

    103. Anonymous Says:

      slidekick user on April 15, 2009 at 3:33 pm said:

      Chanty, I think they are cheating you out cause mms IS part of the $20 unlimited plan.
      I get mms just fine and I am not charged extra for any of them ever.
      The mms’ are tied to the data side, danger’s servers for internet and backup.

      That’s what I was told anyhow, there was a point a while back where I was not getting mms but i was getting texts just fine.

      thank you i was just gonna say that ever since i got my lx when it came out and had the $20 unlimited plan i got mms included with mine. i think chanty is getting screwed by t-mo if she isn’t getting it.

    104. chanty Says:

      sigh. well idk. it’s not really a big deal to me cuz i don`t mms a lot. i email the pictures. but it`s the principle for why i called. the first time they said i had it but then they kept charging me. but it’s whatever.

      i`m hoping it`s free apps &. ringtones. $2.50 for a 15 sec ringtone ; wtflip?

      i love how my bf`s g1 he put a part of a song as his sms alert. i wanna do that !

    105. crazyforwhat Says:

      Chanty, your saying you have had the data plan since 2006 (Sk3) and now they are charging? Did you ever remove your data plan from your account, and then turned it back on on?

      If you never shut the data plan off I would dispute it.

      For anyone thinking of converting to the g1, if you get a G1 and decide to go back to the kick, you will have to pay $35 for unlimited data/messaging.

      What would everybody like to see as a whopper feature?

      Customization? Example: ringtones, wallpaper (real backgrounds not themes) custom sounds (like keyboard clicks)

      Customizable apps on home screen?

      Videochat? Like the nitendo dsi?

      Internal 8 gig memory?

      Built in zune mp3 player with access to an itunes type store, like raphsody or amazonmp3?

      Autofocus camera??

      Unlimited video record,(limited to available memory)

      Infrared port? Hahahah

      3rd party apps that are free like pandora, shazam, facebook, imob, craigslist etc?

      Touch screen? Touchscreen keyboard yould be awesome!

      Streaming tv, applications.

      FM/AM radio? I would appreciate that!

      Speak your mind!

    106. chanty Says:

      nah i`ve had the 3 since feb 07 &. whenever someone sent me an mms it directed me to a website. but never charged me. but i went to the lx in nov 07 but never noticed. i noticed like june 08 that i was getting charged. but it would be like .30 cents cuz i rarely mms. but still. why one rep tell me i have it &. another say no?

      all the details are so bangin. i would be amped if my phone did all that. the dsi is pretty dope.

    107. gutae626 Says:

      Mike B on April 13, 2009 at 4:03 pm said:

      Oh hey, I heard that if an existing customer buys the SK09, the data plan will go up to $35.99 every month or something… is that true?

      yes it will….unless you buy it from another place…im still on the unlimited 20$plan i got 2 years ago….i was going to get the lx with the upgrade and they told me my plane would go up because i would be renewing my contract…..sucks balls

    108. gizmo Says:

      the free ringstones is just the start. that should have been a standard set a long time ago. they will have to do better than that if they want to “impress” me. the sidekick company is know for just throwing together a phone thats is shaped differently than the last. its not very often that we get an actual improvement. the stupid camers on the lx is the same one used on the sidekick 2!!! come on.. i want a real upgrade. free ring tomes! customizeable message tones!!, changeable wallpaper, and by god i want free apps. lol

    109. Anonymous Says:

      What’s with the want of wallpapers?
      I’ve been able to customize my wallpapers for the longest by now…
      I have my car back there and several others on my sdcard I can change to when I wanna.
      Been making custom “bubbles/icons/sounds” and all that other theme stuff too… I must be missing something.

    110. Steve-o Says:

      Yeah Anonymous……I think everyone meant setting your backgrounds without having to go through the hassle of making an entire theme……I’m just like everyone else. The Sidekick is a super sweet phone & if only they open it up more…that leads me to my next point. As much as I like the phone, if they don’t start opening it up more, my next available upgrade will be a different phone.

    111. Michael Says:

      chanty on April 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm said:

      nah i`ve had the 3 since feb 07 &. whenever someone sent me an mms it directed me to a website. but never charged me. but i went to the lx in nov 07 but never noticed. i noticed like june 08 that i was getting charged. but it would be like .30 cents cuz i rarely mms. but still. why one rep tell me i have it &. another say no?

      all the details are so bangin. i would be amped if my phone did all that. the dsi is pretty dope.

      Chanty, when you upgraded from the SK3 to the LX, they should have upgraded your data plan to the one with MMS. The SK3 data plan was $20.00 and did NOT have MMS and when the LX was released there was a new data plan to go along with it, which is $19.99 per month and DOES include MMS. On your bill which amount does it show for the Sidekick data plan, $19.99 or $20.00?

    112. Chris Says:

      crazyforwhat on April 14, 2009 at 7:28 pm said:

      What a pu$$y, do I bother you that bad that you wanna start a petiton. Did your parents not show you enough attention when you were a child.

      STFU you pansy.

      The sidekick is marketed to dumb people like you. Hahaha the year 2009 and your still paying for ringtones and apps that should be free!!!

      Hence why you used it for 8 years. Pwnd.

    113. chanty Says:

      Michael on April 16, 2009 at 6:33 am said:

      chanty on April 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm said:

      nah i`ve had the 3 since feb 07 &. whenever someone sent me an mms it directed me to a website. but never charged me. but i went to the lx in nov 07 but never noticed. i noticed like june 08 that i was getting charged. but it would be like .30 cents cuz i rarely mms. but still. why one rep tell me i have it &. another say no?

      all the details are so bangin. i would be amped if my phone did all that. the dsi is pretty dope.

      Chanty, when you upgraded from the SK3 to the LX, they should have upgraded your data plan to the one with MMS. The SK3 data plan was $20.00 and did NOT have MMS and when the LX was released there was a new data plan to go along with it, which is $19.99 per month and DOES include MMS. On your bill which amount does it show for the Sidekick data plan, $19.99 or $20.00?

      says sidekick unlmt $19.99. but whatev son as long as i don`t go up to $34.99 when/if i get this new sk.

      &. i think this random ish is by location. i only had my sk3 for 7 months when “upgraded” to the LX. [ which is supposed to be what, 22 months to upgrade? ] maybe the guy hooked me up? my contract didnt get renewed &. it stayed $19.99. all i know is i`ma go back to the guy who got me the LX when i want the 09/blade :D

    114. crazyforwhat Says:

      in 2007, (the year I got the LX,) it was still a decent phone. But now it is behind the times. This new kick will bring it up to speed.

      But to pay for ringtones and for apps that should be free is dumb. Hence the reason why I’m leaving if they don’t improve it.

      If you read the poll comments you will see that many many others agree with me. It may be time to move on, if danger/tmo doesn’t get a move on with the new kick!

    115. gizmo Says:

      im with crazy on that one. i feel like i have been paying for the stupid ring tones for long enough. its stupid that we have to pay for them and virtually no one else does. i have had phones that are not nearly as useful and are way better when it somes to personalizing them. like making a background without having to nearly hack the d-a-m-n thing, or making a piece of a song i like my message tone when i get text messages. i should be able to record something with my computer using audacity and make it a message tone. something silly like “incoming text motherf*cker!!!!” lol. or whatever i want. i have done it before and sent it to my friends as a bluetooth. it was fun. but now with this kick i cant do that anymore and it stinks. it really stinks. now that i have all my friends doing it i am out the loop with the little things like that. i am the one that got them started on it and now they are the ones sending and trading the silly home made message tones and ting tones. the point im making is that i shouldnt have to be a programmer to be able to do this for free. and its not that i cant afford the ring tones. i actually can and its not that big of a deal but the fact that they are picking at me for small amounts each month for ring tones that should be free is just wrong. lol.

    116. crazyforwhat Says:

      Thank you for backing me up.

      That alone should be a requirement!

      Custom Ringtones!!!!!

      Give them to us or we are done!!

    117. gizmo Says:

      really… who wants to pay for 30secs of a song when there are other phones that let you down load them from mobile sites like myxer for free if your too lazy to just down load them?? who wants that?? i dont want to keep paying for ring tones. myxer doesnt even work on the sidekick. as a matter of fact nothing that is a mobile download works on the sidekick and its another thing that i dont like about it. its not really a “smartphone” its more like a “communication powerhouse” or a “mobile assistant” with some really really useful communication tools. it really is a “smartphone for kids” but the possibilities are endless with this thing and i want to see microdanger do better. for myown selfish pleasures. there should be 2 sidekick versions. one dumbed down version and a “professional” one, complete with wifi, a pdf viewer, a book reader, the things that a “adult” would use, like a better spreadsheet viewer/editor, a word processor. useful tools that we office junkies use everyday anyway. i work for an isp. i have my own office with a dest and sometimes im a little ashamed to pull out my sidekick when there are black berries and iphones and, g1’s and treos on the confrence table. lol. my boss has an i phone and nothing is out of the question for his “computer in the pocket” and im not saying that danger should come for that spot with a sidekick but i am saying that they can do far better for the price that we are paying. i mean geez. this is actually a rip off and i know it but i just love the stupid phone so much that i will keep putting it on the conftence table in meetings. right next to my nopepad and pen. i know people look at it like its a kids phone but its got some real potential to be so much better, and thats why i keep it around. yes the apps suck and yes i have to pay for every little thing that i download and i am aware of the fact that i cant connect to the company vpn with it to do the little things like up load a word doc. just the fact that i have use of a company vpn and know what it is prob means that i shouldnt have a sidekick in the first place. lol, but i have been a kick user before i was this person that i am and i like it. it really is my sidekick.

      GISMOS(s) and GADTES(s)

    118. crazyforwhat Says:

      Gizmo,

      You need to buy an ipod touch, I have one and I use an app called rdp, I can actually vpn into the remote server and access my desktop.

      I also live in the corporate world, and I’m ashamed of pulling my phone out in a board meeting. Instead I use my touch on the company wifi for my outlook email, and to access my desktop from a meeting.

      I have been screaming about making a pro version.

    119. gizmo Says:

      MAYBE I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO “OUT GROW” THE SIDEKICK!! i am aware that microdanger will have plenty of business with or without me using one if their products. i can run “damn small linux” on a g1 if i hack it right. it can be done. i wont need a sidekick for anything actually. but i have a “loyality” to it because its been with me since the sk2 and i dont want to put it down, for personal reasons. microdanger has a very good product on their hands and i want to see what they will do with it.

      i know that some people will want to come down on me for saying that the sidekick is a “smart phone for kids” but before you attack me for saying that, on the sidekick site, i want you to do a little online research. look at the price of a sidekick lx. you already know what it does, then go look at the latest treo and the g1 and their prices. those phones are “real smart phones” by the… i dont know…. “smart phone standard” (i guess). look at some of those other phones like the samsung instint, and the nokia nseries of phones. we are paying top dollar for a phone that doesnt even let you take a pic and make it a background?? you cant even use the songs that you have on it as ring tones?? it wont download other mobile browsers like opera?? come on!! you cant be serious. the phone is aimed at kids and we all know it. but the fact that it has the capablities to appeal to a mass market with the easy to use interface makes it a shoe in for those that like simple interfaces. its far easier to use than windows mobile and is in a position to compete with the iphone because of the user interface and it has a backend that frees up alot of space on the internal memory!!!! this is babanas. its being wasted!!!! i have some apps waiting for me on the server for me to download whenever i want. i can uninstall an app and free up space on my kick then call it back if i need it. i dont even need to keep the map on my phone if i dont use it often. i can just uninstall it and call it back if i need to take a trip of if i need to look up an address. thats the $h!+!!!! who else offers such a service?? nobody!!! but im getting off the subject here. the point im making is that there is so much more potential for a far greater phone than any other phone on the market but… what do we get?? “a smart phone for kids” instead of what it could be.

    120. gizmo Says:

      crazyforwhat on April 16, 2009 at 11:52 am said:

      Gizmo,

      You need to buy an ipod touch, I have one and I use an app called rdp, I can actually vpn into the remote server and access my desktop.

      I also live in the corporate world, and I’m ashamed of pulling my phone out in a board meeting. Instead I use my touch on the company wifi for my outlook email, and to access my desktop from a meeting.

      I have been screaming about making a pro version.

      maybe i should just get the stupid IPtouch. i dont really want to but its looking like a better and better idea all the time. it would be nice to be able to log into my desktop and remotely work from anywhere else but my desk. even if its something as simple as writing service ticket for our clients. i can do that while im on the toilet. lmao. no need to stop working just because of bio calls. lol. but seriously, i will look into getting a cheap used ipod touch to see what its like. if i dont like it i will just give it to my fiance or one of the kids from my old hood. i always give them stuff. they look at me as “the guy that made it” for some reason. im not rich or nothing like that.

    121. gizmo Says:

      to: crazy

      dude i get all kinds of weird looks when i pull out my kick. i dont know why i even use this thing in public. its cool when im not at work because any place im at is ok to have a side kick. but man, i wish i could some how shoy you what its like when i pull this big, clunky, almost useless thing out, at a confrence meeting. ( i havent made the board, i cant attend those meetings. kudos to ya for making it up the ladder!)

    122. crazyforwhat Says:

      Make sure you get the 2nd generation, it has a speaker. And better everything. I guarantee you, you’ll prolly upgrade to the iphone in a month or 2.

      I just hate at&t

    123. Steve-o Says:

      Thank you Gizmo!!!!!!! That’s what I’ve been saying for the longest. If the Sidekick becomes opened source & everything, it will blow the Iphones, G1s & Blackberries out of the water…..BUT they market the Sidekicks to teenyboppers. Lol. It’s good to know that I’m not the only one. Lol.

    124. crazyforwhat Says:

      You can’t get youtube on edge speed. And you can’t get youtube as an ota. geez!!!

    125. noo Says:

      When this phone does come out, the prepaid thing isnt going to work the same is it?

    126. chanty Says:

      ahh ! guess whattt ! i`m at t-mobile &. i asked a representative about my txts. she said she can`t open it since it`s an old plan. but w/e.

      i said if i go to a g1 i go to the $35? she says yes. so i asked a silly question, “so if i go to an 08 will i go up to $35/month?” she said no you`re grandfathered in to the sidekick.

      which means we most likely WON`T get increased. unless .. sigh. the 3G. i got my hopes up just now. argh ! :[.

    127. DMW2 Says:

      crazyforwhat? on April 15, 2009 at 5:30 am said:

      DMW2 on April 15, 2009 at 5:09 am said:

      My main concern is viewing / editing Microsoft files. Will there be some sort of app that allows view PDF / Xcel / Word files? I also need to to EDIT Xcel and Word files on the go.

      If the new sk could accomplish these tasks, it will be a all around winner!

      You can edit microsoft files right now.
      Buy the applcations in the catalog. I think they are like $5.99
      I bought a cheap excel viewer for the LX, but it sux!

      If you frequently work on spreadsheets, etc, I suggest you wait for the new tmo wing2 or the new dash. Supposedly running 6.5 windows mobile pro.

      Personally, I had the wing for a bit, and it was very prone to crashing. Hopefully they improve the wing2.

      Thanks for the input. In a perfect world I’d love the SK to run Windows of some sort. Makes it tough though, because I’m just STUCK on the sk’s keyboard, redundant command key’s and other convenient features.

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