New Details on the Turtle, Pure, Lion and Pride Phones

Looks like the firmware for the new Turtle and Pure phones has leaked and is being picked apart. @Conflipper is posting details about the OS of these two phones and the many clues hidden amongst the code.

Before we dive in, how do we know this firmware is for the Project Pink phones? Well, there’s this string in there:

ProviderName=”Microsoft Pink” USB\PinkUsbDbg.DeviceDesc=”Pink USB Debug”

It looks like there’s going to be possibly four different devices, well kind of. The Turtle and Pride phones are going to be 320×240 pixel screens with UMTS and CDMA radios respectively. The Pure and the Lion will be higher resolution devices at 480×320 pixels and again UMTS and CDMA respectively.

DEVICE_TYPE=TURTLE RADIO_TYPE=UMTS SPLASH= 320_240
DEVICE_TYPE=PRIDE RADIO_TYPE=CDMA SPLASH= 320_240
DEVICE_TYPE=PURE RADIO_TYPE=UMTS SPLASH=480_320
DEVICE_TYPE=LION RADIO_TYPE=CDMA SPLASH= 480_320

Also of note, it looks like they’ll be based on a version of the Windows CE kernel developed for an ARM architecture thanks to this string in the firmware:

Zune Device.K.E.Y.V.A.U.L.T .A.R.M…W.i.n.d.o.w.s. .C.E. .K.e.r.n.e.l. .f.o.r. .A.R.M.

What version of CE? Well, possibly CE 6 since there’s this:

Microsoft Windows CE Ethernet Bootloader v%d.%d for NVIDIA %s Platform. Partition name %s …..CE6.CE6/

. And yes, that’s an NVIDIA you see in there, most likely the NVIDIA Tegra which also runes the Zune HD.

There’s of course all sorts of references to “PMX” which we already know is Microsoft’s Premium Mobile Experience, aka Microsoft + what’s left of Danger. But one mention of PMX is interesting:

PMX2009 = “PMX USB Modem 2009” PMX2009S = “PMX USB Modem 2009 Standalone” %PMXDevice2009% = QportInstall00, USB\VID_045E&PID_0123&MI_00

Tethering perhaps?

And finally, Conflipper mentions: With reference to Silverlight and Visualizer feeds with a heavy background to social networking I dont think these phone are all that “dumb”

16 Responses to “New Details on the Turtle, Pure, Lion and Pride Phones”

  1. sabercrombiedude Says:

    Ahhh I Can’t Wait.!
    Especially For Some In The Wild Pics =)

  2. serpentor Says:

    Please, no more Pink phones coverage on this site. They just don’t do the kick justice. And as a commenter said in the other post, these phones aren’t a replacement for the kick. I mean c’mon, how can you go from the resolution on the LX to 320×240?

    There should just be a last RIP post and be done with it :/

  3. T Says:

    I agree! These phones don’t show promise, keyboard sucks. Its not a REAL qwerty like the kick, no scroll bar. Screen too small, and i really don’t appreciate microsoft buying danger & not doing another SIDEKICK. Who carrys a phone named pink?? Im waiting for the new google phone. Suppose to be like the G1. With a keyboard again cause I don’t do touchscreen only.

  4. ncmacasl Says:

    The plot thickens – Engadget.com released simlar info: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/16/microsofts-turtle-and-pure-phones-linked-to-tegra-chipset/

    and PoweredByDanger forums just removed the new thread started on this same topic and also an older thread on demise of sidekick on t-mobile due to MyTouch 2.

    They only delete rumors when they are TOO true!!!!

  5. ncmacasl Says:

    I agree about the keyboard. a 5-row keyboard was what made Sidekicks special! (plus the screen swoosh)

    I would imagine an actuator might get too confused with the constant screen swoosh.

  6. Ben Says:

    WTF is this?!?!? A turtle phone??? That’s what the future of the sidekick has turned into?? Honestly people, im making a generalization here but my guess is that most of the population of sidekick users are teenagers and people in their early 20’s what teenager or 20 something person would have the right mindset to buy and be rocking a cell phone that looking like a F’in TURTLE??
    R.I.P. Sidekick

  7. scocko77 Says:

    Microsoft should die for killing off the sidekick

  8. Spyked Says:

    ncmacasl on February 16, 2010 at 10:26 am said:

    I agree about the keyboard. a 5-row keyboard was what made Sidekicks special! (plus the screen swoosh)

    I would imagine an actuator might get too confused with the constant screen swoosh.

    I’m going to miss the screen swoosh too. I almost sold my LX 09, even though it’s not my primary phone something inside me couldn’t give it up. I don’t know why…

  9. glasses1o1 Says:

    wow any woman would b happy to get her little hands on those fine devices they got ther…………..so wheres the men phones?

  10. n Says:

    serpentor on February 16, 2010 at 8:28 am said:

    Please, no more Pink phones coverage on this site. They just don’t do the kick justice. And as a commenter said in the other post, these phones aren’t a replacement for the kick. I mean c’mon, how can you go from the resolution on the LX to 320×240?

    There should just be a last RIP post and be done with it :/

    agreed
    `RIP SK`

  11. bulletinyochest Says:

    To (HELL) with Mircosoft, Bill Gates need a sidekick shoved up his ***. So he can see what it feels like, to what he and the hole mircosoft team are doing to the true sidekick users.

  12. ncmacasl Says:

    http://twitpic.com/13rrjr Pic of threads being deleted from PoweredByDanger Forums – Reason given “non-Hiptop Device” Interesting since it is a Powered by *danger* forum and the Pink phones pretty much fall into that category!!

  13. rapaleeman Says:

    serpentor on February 16, 2010 at 8:28 am said:

    Please, no more Pink phones coverage on this site. They just don’t do the kick justice. And as a commenter said in the other post, these phones aren’t a replacement for the kick. I mean c’mon, how can you go from the resolution on the LX to 320×240?

    There should just be a last RIP post and be done with it :/

    The reason for the drop in resolution is most likely for compatibility. 320*240 is a standard resolution for a ton of phones.

  14. umm Says:

    wth is up with the supid *** names ?
    pride ?! lion ?! turtle ?!

    lmao..

    stupid microsoft, these pieces of **** wont ever replace the sk

  15. alex Says:

    the mytouch slide (release date is march 24th possibly) is supposedly taking the place of sidekicks not these ugly things. how anyone could think that those phones would replace the sks i have no idea.

  16. Anonymous Says:

    RIP hiptop3.com



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