Sidekick LX 2009 / Blade Will Run NetBSD
* GEEK ALERT *
Wow, here’s a nice shift. Remember all those concerns you guys had about Microsoft switching the Sidekick to *cringe* Windows CE? Well worry no more. The next Sidekick will run the free open source NetBSD operating system. Yes, you read that right. Don’t worry, you won’t have to know how to use the command line to make a phone call, your Sidekick LX 2009 will have the same old Danger User Interface we all know and love.
How do we know this?
- We’ve confirmed this via sources that wish to remain anonymous, but we know that’s not good enough for you guys….
- A job posting (also posted here) looking for “a talented NetBSD software developer interested in helping Danger (a subsidiary of Microsoft) ship the next generation of Danger’s Sidekick platform.” (full text of job description below)
Location: Redmond, WA
Client: Microsoft.
Job Description:Seeking a talented NetBSD software developer interested in helping Danger (a subsidiary of Microsoft) ship the next generation of Danger’s Sidekick platform. Specifically, we’re looking for NetBSD developers interested in commercializing the NetBSD platform for an embedded mobile computing device, focusing on performance and optimization, bug fixing, and integration with Danger’s higher-level platform code, with an emphasis on kernel and driver support.
Qualifications:
- 8+ years of software development experience
- 8+ years experience with C
- Strong understanding of OS concepts (particularly with NetBSD) such as multi-threaded program design and synchronization, processes & memory protection, etc.
- Strong communication skills
- Strong understanding of the NetBSD/GNU software development process and embedded development & debugging techniques
- Deep understanding of NetBSD, including timers, RPC, TCP/IP, etc.
- Experience with ARM processors highly desirable
- A post on a NetBSD mailing list from a Danger employee saying “that Danger is actively and openly working on NetBSD”. Full post:
Subject: Arm support for TI SDP2430, ARM 1136, ARMv6 and ARM VIPT cache
To: NoneFrom: Martin Fouts
List: port-arm
Date: 09/25/2007 12:46:40I’ve just attempted to send-pr a patch that adds support to release-4 for the TI SDP2430 evaluation board, the ARM 1136 processor core, ARM V6 cache support and VIPT support for ARM.
The work represents the effort of Matt Thomas and Cliff Neighbors of 3AM Software Foundry for Danger, Inc. as well the efforts of many people at Danger, including Marty Fouts, Todd Poynor, Ken Sumrall and others. It builds on the previous OMAP port to NetBSD submitted by “Picovex” containing the port to OMAP by Scott Anderson and others at Danger.
Matt Thomas is currently committing the changes to the matt-armv6 branch.
The port is reasonably stable: It has self-hosted on an NFS mounted file system on the SDP2430 board.
Now that Danger is actively and openly working on NetBSD, we will be making some of our other drivers and ports available to the community as they become stable.
- There’s also this post about porting yaffs (Yet Another Flash File System) to the NetBSD/Sidekick.
’nuff said.
January 30th, 2009 at 8:56 pm [ Quote ]
This is nucking futs….cant wait
January 30th, 2009 at 8:59 pm [ Quote ]
Ehhh i’ll probably have it for 2 months then go back to the iphone.
January 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pm [ Quote ]
Cool beans! Can’t wait!
January 30th, 2009 at 9:09 pm [ Quote ]
The ShamWow ™ can absorb 50% of the 2009 Sidekick in one squeeze!
January 30th, 2009 at 9:35 pm [ Quote ]
booooo iphone
January 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pm [ Quote ]
i cant waight to get my hands on this sick new sidekick lx/ blade i have the tony hawk one right now and i love the sidekick franshise
January 30th, 2009 at 9:53 pm [ Quote ]
ook, so does any1 know exactly what this means!?!?
because i have noo idea wtf theyre talking about. lol
does this mean the sidekick wont be as locked down?
January 30th, 2009 at 10:03 pm [ Quote ]
Wo0t cant wait finally the new sk is gettin better so microsoft buy it wasnt such a bad idea after
January 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm [ Quote ]
Yea wtff that mean break it down 2 normall ppl
January 30th, 2009 at 10:54 pm [ Quote ]
Smh @ Dave, you can’t read for ****, or you must still be in High School. -_____-
It means we are going to be able to install 3rd party apps.
January 30th, 2009 at 10:59 pm [ Quote ]
Yeah I’m with that guy dave what the does this mean.
January 30th, 2009 at 11:11 pm [ Quote ]
lol wut does this mean thenn?
January 30th, 2009 at 11:47 pm [ Quote ]
1st off, that was uncalled for; noo need to be a ****. and yea , for ur information i am in highschool ur point?. my god, i ask one simple question and automatically get a negative response.
January 30th, 2009 at 11:49 pm [ Quote ]
^^but thnxxx for answering my question; DESPITE ur negative comment along w/ it
January 31st, 2009 at 12:56 am [ Quote ]
woahh.
sounds REALLY REALLY good.
Can’t wait <3
January 31st, 2009 at 8:48 am [ Quote ]
Aww, did I hurt you? You want me to call the Waammmbulance? ROFL. Go cry to your mommy dude.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:55 am [ Quote ]
Your really getting on my nerves.
Open OS is nice and will open up more oppertunites, but hopefully the developers will still be able to make some cash! I personally liked the locked down OS.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:15 am [ Quote ]
im confused, wut does this NetBSD do anyways?
January 31st, 2009 at 11:27 am [ Quote ]
WWOOOOOOT. HORRAYY FOR BETTER APS!!! I knew danger would come through!!! The sidekick is now ready to compete with todays phones. Before it relied on people who text. But now its basically for everyone! The microsoft purchase was a damn good thing if you ask me.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:32 pm [ Quote ]
It means..
* GEEK ALERT *
If your not, don’t worry about it. You’ll understand more once the device comes out
January 31st, 2009 at 12:41 pm [ Quote ]
Gotta remember tho, it was tmo locking up the sidekicks, not danger. So all that open os stuff is only as good as the network that lets it stay open…
January 31st, 2009 at 1:02 pm [ Quote ]
Holla!
January 31st, 2009 at 1:19 pm [ Quote ]
And where did you get this false information?
January 31st, 2009 at 3:45 pm [ Quote ]
It’s not entirely false information, sorry. It’s true that carriers do request Ringtones be locked down. As far as Applications though, that’s false. That’s the same everywhere and I’m quite happy about that. Look at the G1, there was some Application that would corrupt your address book. (Google it, you’ll find it.) That would never happen on a Sidekick/Hiptop due to Danger reviewing EVERY application that goes on their device *so* throughly.
January 31st, 2009 at 4:43 pm [ Quote ]
Wow, you guys have feelings over the internet, smh.
January 31st, 2009 at 6:31 pm [ Quote ]
There is nothing wrong with android not reviewing apps before letting it to market. There isn’t a central company reviewing every computer app you download! You are supposed to make your own intelligent choice and decide for yourself. This frees the market up and lets some bad apps in, but it brings in way more innovative apps as well without the developer worrying about doing all the hard work just to be shot down in the approval process.
Btw I’ve always loved the
January 31st, 2009 at 6:33 pm [ Quote ]
There is nothing wrong with android not reviewing apps before letting it to market. There isn’t a central company reviewing every computer app you download! You are supposed to make your own intelligent choice and decide for yourself. This frees the market up and lets some bad apps in, but it brings in way more innovative apps as well without the developer worrying about doing all the hard work just to be shot down in the approval process.
Btw I’ve always loved the smooth ui from the sidekick. Being able to seamlessly multitask was great. I hope the battery life is good.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:11 pm [ Quote ]
actually NO, u didnt hurt me thats one of the last things a little negative comment over the internet would EVER do to me. and wtf? go cry to my mommy?!? what r u like 12?!? like really, its pointless 2 even form an argument via internet, so whatever its done. BACK TO TALKING ABOUT SIDEKICKS which we are originally here for.
February 1st, 2009 at 12:33 am [ Quote ]
Still arguing?………….
February 1st, 2009 at 6:58 am [ Quote ]
Just stop being a **** man. Give the guy a break, okay?
February 1st, 2009 at 8:16 am [ Quote ]
I guess you were wrong joe because if you read the article above this one it says
“What does it mean for you? Nothing. You still won’t see any Non-Catalog 3rd party applications, you won’t see a “Jailbreak”, you won’t see free rangt0n3z… none of this will happen with the Blade running NetBSD as it’s foundation. Sorry to burst any bubbles”
Wonder how it feels to think your a genious but your wrong!
joe Says:
January 30th, 2009 at 10:54 pm [ Quote ]
Smh @ Dave, you can’t read for ****, or you must still be in High School. -_____-
It means we are going to be able to install 3rd party apps
^^^^ Guess He Does!
February 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm [ Quote ]
lol thnxx;
no biggie though, lets start talking about sidekicks agen, becuase thats what we’re here for right? to find outt info on the sidekick. but agen, thnxx
February 1st, 2009 at 11:46 pm [ Quote ]
Lmao, you don’t know **** about Danger nor Sidekick brand, so why are you here? Let me guess, you are one of those idiots that think the OS we have now is impossible to open? Lol. NetBSD will be open I guarantee you, hiptop3 is an unreliable source, try researching around the internet and stop listening to hiptop3!! ;P
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 am [ Quote ]
ShamWow. You’re gonna say “wow” every time.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 pm [ Quote ]
Seeking a talented NetBSD software developer interested in helping Danger (a subsidiary of Microsoft)
should read
“Seeking a loner NetBSD software developer interested in helping Danger (a subsidiary of Microsoft)… ready for career change”
Because what are your chances of A) having any standing with your MS colleagues and B) of staying long term an experienced NetBSD developer?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm [ Quote ]
@ Joe.
You’re a moron. And I mean that in a “you’ve no idea of what you’re talking about” kind of way. Not just in the, “You’re a real asshat” way.
*BSD doesn’t have to mean open for the consumer. The BSD license does not preclude closing source, limiting client exposure or insinuate freely available *SDK’s. The primary restriction imposed by the BSD license is to site the source — not release modifications or implementations of it.
Educate yourself before you spout idiocy.
And quit being a jerk.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm [ Quote ]
Sorry Joe. Your wrong. You need to do a search on NETBSD.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm [ Quote ]
You failed as a Mcdonalds “employee”.
Lolz
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm [ Quote ]
Goo goo gah gah, stop b!tching, I bet you are one of those geeks that joins the sidekick bandwagon because you had the sidekick since the first one? nobody cares, the sidekick needs to die, T-Mobiles new signature phone is the G series, get with what’s modern and leave the past alone, so if this new sidekick is going to have yet another closed OS then it will be another piece of **** that will be overpriced. The G1 is $179, how much will this sidekick 09 be? $400. What a waste, I was hoping Danger would go bankrupt! Dammit!
February 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pm [ Quote ]
hmmmm…..ad hominem abusive…..the first logical sign that you have nothing worth listening to.
lol
February 4th, 2009 at 4:49 pm [ Quote ]
This is very creepy. MSFT putting money into developing a product which is in direct competition with Windows Mobile? Where’s the catch? I thought that MSFT bought Danger because it needed hardware of their own for a MSphone of some type. Like what they did with the Zune to go after the Ipod’s business. Has Android shifted WinMo’s strategy so much they’re putting their greens into an opensource platform?
February 4th, 2009 at 7:05 pm [ Quote ]
Lolz
February 4th, 2009 at 8:46 pm [ Quote ]
Aaahhhh this wack. I got a iphone. Iphone better then sidekick lx 2009. (Cough) my bad
February 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am [ Quote ]
so funny how people read something and come here to ask questions
it’s as if they have never heard of google
lool @ fools
obviously they’re not learning anything in high school these days
February 5th, 2009 at 9:46 am [ Quote ]
Not really. its called diversification. windows knows that there are ppl out there who spit on their mobile platform, so instead of competing with something different, you own it. now M$ has a new revenue stream from a market it never would have had before. so, what if this new sk out sells every phone M$ has licensed it mobile platform for? it doesnt matter. so long as both sell, that money in their pockets. what they did do, though, is include M$ features in the newest sk to, not only, draw more ppl to M$ products, but to continue having ppl pick a side in the “M$ vs everyone else” tech war.
meaning?
they put in the outlook shizznit, etc., also, with this being a windows phone, i bet it will be pretty hard to switch your default search engine to google. lol. that’ll suck.
and thats your lesson in economics.
that being said. i hope that they dont lock you into windows programs(etc), but just make it a default. phones that give you options are a much bigger draw. we have a pretty stable OS, and moderately stable phone…..and keyboard that i love……i prolly love the os and keyboard the most (its what makes the phone worth having. it makes stuff easy to do….i ‘want’ better apps, but dont ‘need’ them)……..but if i have to be owned by M$ in that i cant seemlessly use google products, it will make me get the g2. M$ can really ruin this for a lot of ppl even though they arent using a windows OS
February 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm [ Quote ]
what colors is it gonna have?
I bet you this thing is gonna be as ugly as everything else TMobile got.
February 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm [ Quote ]
This very interesting… MS is looking to go after the young, hip crowd with this new SK. Clearly, they would never cannibalize their sales on Windows 6.1 or 6.5. Has anyone seen the **** phones running this OS. Rumors is 2 phones might be heading to Tmobile. The HTC tungsten and Wing II. As long as danger can get flash on this by the end of the year, I see no need in heading to ATT for the Iphone HD being announced in the summer.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:27 am [ Quote ]
3g 3g 3g 3g yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
March 1st, 2009 at 10:52 am [ Quote ]
JOE HAS A MANGINA!!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm [ Quote ]
well, after reading over the comments, i have come to the (hopefully obvious) conclusion that joe is just a troll with nothing better to do. anyone who enters a forum not only not supporting the discussion, but abusing people within the discussion, is a troll. just ignore him ^________________________^
SO, back to the hiptop (yes im australian) im just glad its coming to australia. i care not for what colour it is as ill probably just customize it myself. and flash would be nice too.
thats my 2c.
March 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm [ Quote ]
Joe your an ***Hole .
First of all you think u the S****
U aint no everything you dumb s**** so stop bragging ok
And you need a Cockk on ur mouth bcause you think you kno everything . Guess what! You aint know anything . So STFUUU ! >:o
March 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am [ Quote ]
Everybody down playin the sidekick. Fucc the G1 and iphone. This is a “SIDEKICK” discussion so y are yall even here?… EXACTLY, get a life and find some G1 and iphone blogs and threads to talk on since yall LOVE 2 talk so much. Go be with yall own kind. The sidekicc gets 2 much attention to die off, KNOW THAT! Just cause yall dnt like it, that means nothing, YALL DNT MATTER! I feel every ignorant comment thats made should be ignored cause all ppl want is attention and a reaction out of us “sidekicc users”… so just simply ignore them.
But I can’t wait til this new sidekicc comes out. I got the brown lx and the tony hawk lx right now.. So im patiently waiting for this 09/blade. I hope the video will record more than just 20 secs…
March 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm [ Quote ]
l0l, its pretty funny talking about a new sidekick when im replying to this v.i.a my sidekick 2008. I wonder what types of features it’ll have and do you think they’ll make a huge last minute improvement and make it touch screen to fit the new “touch screen” era its a good look though. Time to start saving up my money for this!
March 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pm [ Quote ]
l0l, its pretty funny talking about a new sidekick when im replying to this v.i.a my sidekick 2008. I wonder what types of features it’ll have and do you think they’ll make a huge last minute improvement and make it touch screen to fit the new “touch screen” era? its a good look though. Time to start saving up my money for this!
March 13th, 2009 at 8:16 pm [ Quote ]
haha Xavier..its what having a sidekick 2008 will do to you..a double post.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:03 am [ Quote ]
JOE UR STUPID
March 30th, 2009 at 6:39 pm [ Quote ]
I think the sidekick 2009 should b touchscreen
Shamwow you’ll say wow every f**ken time
April 6th, 2009 at 11:20 am [ Quote ]
Joe is dumb
April 11th, 2009 at 9:50 pm [ Quote ]
lol this is sweet hopefully it wont freeze anymore when i roam into crappy gsm networks that dont support data services. every other sidekick i had does it. and besides, the price of unlimited data and txting for sidekick has almost doubled, with no improvements, so hopefully this is it.
April 13th, 2009 at 12:22 am [ Quote ]
How many fones u kno have their own release party? Not to mention with a list stars & celebs proud to be there & not assamed to show their face.. The sidekick is choosen by many rich azz peeps that could buy whatever fone they want.. Iphone owners jus jealous that their **** aint as popular. Not2mention that all I see is old azz business ppl wit them.. Sidekicks are for popular ppl.. Not wanabees that got nothin better to do with their time then search forums about fones they don’t like.. & then smash us for like em sumthin.. We obviusly don’t give a **** what u have to say or we would stop usein them on our own & not becuz of ut opinon.. Plus the iphone is jus lame. Its not user friendly, its to hard to use an all touchscreen much eaier with a trackball.. It don’t have a keyboard which is its #1 flaw. Can u open ur fone go2 ur txt message page type a message send it while loadin the live scores from espn.mobile web page, while holdin a 3 conversation on aim give 3responses back to all, while gettin directions, while gettin a live traffic update. All in under a min? Didn’t think so.. Can u use ur fone while drivin? We like our fones for our reasons, don’t talk like ur better than sum1 becuz u have a different opinon. That jus makes u look rly arrogant & stupid. Especially when u on a sidekick site man.
April 17th, 2009 at 3:06 pm [ Quote ]
i have had every sidekick since the 2… i love my slide and i love the 2008(geko or whatever you wanna call it) ive been wanting to go with the G1 but i was told that it has allot of bugs… but now i wanna go with the 2009. the only thing that im wondering is it as big as a brick like the last lx? or is it slimer and more pocket friendly like the 2008?
April 18th, 2009 at 11:31 am [ Quote ]
this phone is ******* hot . . . cnt wait . . .
April 21st, 2009 at 2:07 pm [ Quote ]
Will the new side kick be able to down load straight 2 the phone
April 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm [ Quote ]
Can the new lkx download online with out plugging in to a computer
April 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pm [ Quote ]
tmobile is a rip off they find anything to get ur money that phone isnt even touch scren and watch it be @ least 400 dollars
April 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm [ Quote ]
LOWER UR PRICES ITS A ****** RECESSION
April 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm [ Quote ]
LOWER UR PRICES ITA A FUCN RECESSION
April 29th, 2009 at 4:07 pm [ Quote ]
haha **** this
blackberry storm jailbroke baby
May 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm [ Quote ]
See what I’ve always liked about my sidekick is that u can throw them, drop them, drop them in the tub and they jus keep goin. U loose it, buy a new one and u get everything back. My room mate has a iphone and dropped it one time the side cracked n came open she went got a new one and lost ur contacts, wtf. Really? Its easy to multi task and I love the shortcuts for everything. Anyone I’ve ever met wit a sidekick argees completely, anyone that never had one always talk **** about them… yea I’ve lost my phone a few times since the first sidekick.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm [ Quote ]
How much will it cost when it 1st comes out?
May 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm [ Quote ]
How much will it cost when it 1st comes out?
May 11th, 2009 at 6:23 am [ Quote ]
I like my little sk Tony Hawk ^_^ but Can”t Wait for the 09″ I love all the sk”s I remember wen they 1″st came out with the sk 2″ that phone was big” but I loved it lol then the I’d” then the 3″ then the the slide” and then the tony hawk” but I bet the 09 will blow our minds ^_^
May 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm [ Quote ]
Ohh i`ve always wanted to do one of these thing`ies =] yay! But anyway……
Ohkay sooo im`a side kick addict i have had 16 side kicks in my whole 13years of life [what a long time huh?] anyway. I`ve had 11 side kick 3s cause my **** be breaking. I have had 4 side kick lx`s got one stolen broke the others now im dealing w/a 08. Love it but it`s time to upgrade too my new 09. Soo i say **** a iphone why buy it when i can have my itouch and my side kick. Be bomb. I dropped my 08 in the toilet. Now my bally don’t work but my **** is still up to date know it. But yea…i hate that there so expensive i mean i know im`a get it regardless. But sheesh. I feel bad for you pre paid side kick users and what not because i get my **** free. Or for 130$ heyy nae be on point.
May 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm [ Quote ]
Cop that sidekick blade!… I got it and I love it..
May 28th, 2009 at 11:15 am [ Quote ]
iPhone
May 28th, 2009 at 4:39 pm [ Quote ]
Ok u all need 2 shut tha **** up and stop argue n ova sum **** phone!
June 13th, 2009 at 8:17 pm [ Quote ]
i love the sidekick blade i is mad hot!!!!lol
June 15th, 2009 at 6:29 am [ Quote ]
Yea I seriously love my freakin sidekick. I hate ppl with iphones. They always freeze just like any other touch screen phone. When you talk on them you can’t hear **** so you have to scream in the mic. Anyway so I have a 2008 and hopefully I will soon upgrade to the 2009. Oh yea and I have dropped my phone too(plenty of times) and my phone has never broken. The screen hasn’t even cracked. Yay for sidekicks!!
August 19th, 2009 at 8:48 am [ Quote ]
wow, never knew you americans would get so touchy of a phone
i mean that with no offence, i think america’s prettty fly,
and these sidekick phones sound awesome
cant wait till they come out in england, i will be one of the first to buy them.
does anyone have any idea how much they cost?
thanks
alicex
November 4th, 2009 at 4:10 am [ Quote ]
you mean the new sidekick lx 2009 blade will connect to all networks